Benn: "Jones dodged me", Eubank: "Roy avoided my calls", Collins: "Roy ran scared!",

[phallus]

hopkins is less dangerous than a prime nigel benn but the dark destroyer is also more one dimensional than hops. benn is one of my fav fighters, but he's a puncher with a lot of heart, kind of like a middleweight lamon brewster

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Per capita, they might be. I don't know of many great Brits, though.

Could someone name the greatest British fighters, please?



Maybe he's not all that bright then. I don't think it's possible to deny that Hopkins is one of the most technically skilled fighters of this era, and perhaps ever.

Well he isn't the best British fighter of all time, but how about a guy that went from middlewight and won the heavyweight title, (Before the likes of RJJ went up to fight possibly the worst heavyweight belt holder ever in Ruiz - at the same time Lennox Lewis held the crown!)

Bob Fitzsimmons?

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Yeah, But you conviently left this part out... Which to me is probably the most important part!

Nothing was left out 4 "convenience". Get over conspiracies. Boxing media is not big at all. The fans have the biggest say as the media does not even say much anyway.

Real boxing fans are not claiming what fighters are great based on the media. The media hardly even speaks on the issue anyway.

[BadMagick]

Well he isn't the best British fighter of all time, but how about a guy that went from middlewight and won the heavyweight title, (Before the likes of RJJ went up to fight possibly the worst heavyweight belt holder ever in Ruiz - at the same time Lennox Lewis held the crown!)

Bob Fitzsimmons?

Yeah, he might be up there. I'm not too sure. I hope that's not all you can think of though! Seriously, I don't think there is a single country that can make a list to combat with America's list.

Anyhow, Roy only did it to get a belt, and to say he did it. He wasn't looking to become a real heavyweight. He even said it in the post fight interview that he was just there to make history.

I do agree with your sig, though. Sadly, Lennox IS the best HW since Ali... Well, unless you include 90's Foreman, because I think Big George takes Lewis when he was younger, though he would not fight him past his 50's.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Yeah, he might be up there. I'm not too sure. I hope that's not all you can think of though! Seriously, I don't think there is a single country that can make a list to combat with America's list.

Anyhow, Roy only did it to get a belt, and to say he did it. He wasn't looking to become a real heavyweight.

Bob Fitzsimmons did become a real heavyweight...

But the media plays such a large part in Boxing, espcially the American media, in that they build up fighters to make them sound so much greater than they are or were.

Mexicans are the real warriors of the ring.

[JUYJUY]

Some great British fighters of the past 20 years or so...
Alan Minter (WBC/WBA Middleweight), Barry McGuigan (WBA Featherweight), Lloyd Honeyghan (WBC/WBA/IBF Welterweight), Nigel Benn (WBO Middleweight, WBC Super-Middleweight), Lennox Lewis (WBC/WBA/IBF Heavyweight). Just to name a few.


In the distant past we have had the likes of Ted 'Kid' Lewis who is the greatest European fighter of all-time, he went from Featherweight to Heavyweight!! Ted Lewis was number one in the world for years and years, he beat all the greatest American fighters, he was getting the better off some of the greatest fighters that ever lived such as Jack Britton, Mickey Walker, Benny Leonard...

Henry Cooper was the first man to put Muhammad Ali down and would of won if Angelo Dundee didn't split Ali's glove and call for time-out. Ali was clearly stunned. Cooper had the best left hook ever, better than Joe Frazier's.

Randolf Turpin defeated the greatest fightest of all-time. Sugar Ray Robinson defeated by Turpin.

Jimmy Wilde is undoubtedly the greatest Flyweight that ever lived.


The guys I mentioned above are only a small handful of the great British fighters from this tiny, tiny country.

[BadMagick]

Bob Fitzsimmons did become a real heavyweight...

But the media plays such a large part in Boxing, espcially the American media, in that they build up fighters to make them sound so much greater than they are or were.

Mexicans are the real warriors of the ring.

Warriors are not necessarily boxers. Gatti and Ward are warriors, but no one REALLY considers them gret boxers. There's a big difference in the two.

Roy Jones WAS great, and it's impossible to deny that.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Nothing was left out 4 "convenience". Get over conspiracies. Boxing media is not big at all. The fans have the biggest say as the media does not even say much anyway.

Real boxing fans are not claiming what fighters are great based on the media. The media hardly even speaks on the issue anyway.

Now how's being niave?... LOL!...

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Warriors are not necessarily boxers. Gatti and Ward are warriors, but no one REALLY considers them gret boxers. There's a big difference in the two.

Roy Jones WAS great, and it's impossible to deny that.

Yeah, I know... I didn't quite mean it like that "warriors".

I just mean guys that fought the best over and over again, and didn't get the luxery of warm up fights or pick and choose fights. That couldn't go up in weight to avoid or down in weight to avoid, or that couldn't fight for the IBF this time, then the WBC that time, just so they didn't have to go in the ring with someone the didn't want to.

[JUYJUY]

Do you know how difficult it is for a British fighter to get a World title shot? British fighters who become World Champions deserve the most respect.

(I remember when Richie Woodhall was kept on the WBC mandatory position for two whole years by a certain Mr King!)