Benn: "Jones dodged me", Eubank: "Roy avoided my calls", Collins: "Roy ran scared!",

[JUYJUY]

Well, maybe if you go per capita, you're more successful, but your greats can't even touch ours in terms of skill. Let's just look at heavyweights: Ali, Louis, Foreman, Fraizer, and Holmes. Name on Brit, besides Lennox, who, from what I understand, claims Canada as his home, who could take him.

We might as well just name a few more: Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather, etc. Oh, right, let's not forget the one considered the greatest boxer to ever live, ANYWHERE: Sugar Ray Robinson. Britain is NOT the best country, I hate to break it to you. We've put out the greatest boxers ever. It doesn't matter where it started, either. That'd be like saying Hakeem Olajuwon isn't one of the greatest centers in the NBA ever, because basketball originated in the USA, and he's not from the USA.

Per capita the UK has been proven as the most successful boxing country, infact the USA doesn't even come close!

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Well, maybe if you go per capita, you're more successful, but your greats can't even touch ours in terms of skill. Let's just look at heavyweights: Ali, Louis, Foreman, Fraizer, and Holmes. Name on Brit, besides Lennox, who, from what I understand, claims Canada as his home, who could take him.

We might as well just name a few more: Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather, etc. Oh, right, let's not forget the one considered the greatest boxer to ever live, ANYWHERE: Sugar Ray Robinson. Britain is NOT the best country, I hate to break it to you. We've put out the greatest boxers ever. It doesn't matter where it started, either. That'd be like saying Hakeem Olajuwon isn't one of the greatest centers in the NBA ever, because basketball originated in the USA, and he's not from the USA.

WAY!!! too many kids posting on this website... Use google or yahoo and do your on research kiddo.

And for the 5th time!... Lennox Lewis was born and grew up in Brixton, London.

[BadMagick]

Jones Jr could of made millions of dollars against Benn or Eubank in the UK. Benn, Eubank and Collins were all publicly saying time and time again in 1995 and 1996 that they wanted to fight Jones Jr in America but Jones Jr BLATANTLY avoided them.
Stop lying.

Well, if you want to talk 95-96, then I will use this one: Benn was SHOT by 95-96. He had nothing left in him. He had two winning fights after the McClellan tragedy, and those were in 95. By 96 he had nothing left. Roy said that if Nigel could come back and beat Malinga, he'd fight him, but he didn't. Had he taken him on in 96, we'd be discussing on how Roy beat up on old, shot fighters, instead of fighting the top dogs of the division.

Collins, maybe in 95-96 you have a point with them, but Eubank was on his way out, too. Roy explicitly stated that he would not fight Eubank on his way out, because Eubank would not fight him when he was on his way up.

So, that leaves us with Collins, who you probably have a case for in those years, I don't know anything about him, and Cal***gie. I don't know enough of the Cal***gie story, so I won't go there, because I'm not sure what the details were on it. So, in actuality, if we want to say Roy was dodging fighters, it WAS only 2 Brits he dodged. Going by the years you offer, at any rate.

[BadMagick]

WAY!!! too many kids posting on this website... Use google or yahoo and do your on research kiddo.

And for the 5th time!... Lennox Lewis was born and grew up in Brixton, London.

What are you talking about? I said, from what I heard, and that was what I heard.

Name people who can beat those guys I listed. In fact, I'll give you Lennox. None of your people, except Lennox, make the top ten list for HW's. I can't say that for the rest, but BY FAR we have put out the greatest boxers. You're just a nationalistic sucker, who wants to think that Britain had the greatest fighters ever, when it's just not the truth.

And don't call me kiddo, that's one of the most ******ed words ever...

Also, I'm not talking per capita, because that's just ******.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

What are you talking about? I said, from what I heard, and that was what I heard.

Name people who can beat those guys I listed. In fact, I'll give you Lennox. None of your people, except Lennox, make the top ten list for HW's. I can't say that for the rest, but BY FAR we have put out the greatest boxers. You're just a nationalistic sucker, who wants to think that Britain had the greatest fighters ever, when it's just not the truth.

And don't call me kiddo, that's one of the most ******ed words ever...

I don't think we had the greatest fighters ever...

Mexico do by FAR!!!...

LOL!... But it's OUR sport "Marquis of Queensberry" So you should respect it when talking to Brits!

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

Well, if you want to talk 95-96, then I will use this one: Benn was SHOT by 95-96. He had nothing left in him. He had two winning fights after the McClellan tragedy, and those were in 95. By 96 he had nothing left. Roy said that if Nigel could come back and beat Malinga, he'd fight him, but he didn't. Had he taken him on in 96, we'd be discussing on how Roy beat up on old, shot fighters, instead of fighting the top dogs of the division.

Collins, maybe in 95-96 you have a point with them, but Eubank was on his way out, too. Roy explicitly stated that he would not fight Eubank on his way out, because Eubank would not fight him when he was on his way up.

So, that leaves us with Collins, who you probably have a case for in those years, I don't know anything about him, and Cal***gie. I don't know enough of the Cal***gie story, so I won't go there, because I'm not sure what the details were on it. So, in actuality, if we want to say Roy was dodging fighters, it WAS only 2 Brits he dodged. Going by the years you offer, at any rate.

Calzaghe was scared to get in the ring with Glencoffe Johnson at 175lbs. He has a "back injury" then in his next fight was fighting at 168 still. Calzaghe has never wanted to fight Roy Jones period.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

A comment from someone not in the know...

[BadMagick]

I don't think we had the greatest fighters ever...

Mexico do by FAR!!!...

LOL!... But it's OUR sport "Marquis of Queensberry" So you should respect it when talking to Brits!

I'm not saying it's not your sport, I'm saying it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Mexico didn't put out the greatest boxers, all around, either. Undoubtedly they have some in the top ten, but how can you argue with Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Holmes, Tyson (he was great in his prime, no doubt about it), Holyfield (sucks now, though), Jones Jr. (even if he DID dodge fighters), Oscar De la Hoya (He's Mexican by heritage, but he's an American), Whitaker, Hopkins, Mayweather Jr., Joe Louis... the list goes on and on with all the great fighters we've had.

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

What is there to know about Calzaghes ducking Johnson. First he turns down a fight with Johnson then calls out Johnson when Johnson becomes champ. A week before the fight he suddenly becomes injured. When Calzaghe stops fighting bums let me know.

[JUYJUY]

Well, if you want to talk 95-96, then I will use this one: Benn was SHOT by 95-96. He had nothing left in him. He had two winning fights after the McClellan tragedy, and those were in 95. By 96 he had nothing left. Roy said that if Nigel could come back and beat Malinga, he'd fight him, but he didn't. Had he taken him on in 96, we'd be discussing on how Roy beat up on old, shot fighters, instead of fighting the top dogs of the division.

Collins, maybe in 95-96 you have a point with them, but Eubank was on his way out, too. Roy explicitly stated that he would not fight Eubank on his way out, because Eubank would not fight him when he was on his way up.

So, that leaves us with Collins, who you probably have a case for in those years, I don't know anything about him, and Cal***gie. I don't know enough of the Cal***gie story, so I won't go there, because I'm not sure what the details were on it. So, in actuality, if we want to say Roy was dodging fighters, it WAS only 2 Brits he dodged. Going by the years you offer, at any rate.

By 1995 Benn had made 10 defences of his WBC title. Benn hadn't lost for 5 years (since he lost his World Middleweight title to Eubank in 1990) and he was rated #2 at 168 behind Jones Jr who was the #1 lb4lb fighter in the world. Benn defeated McClellan in 1995 who was the #2 lb4lb fighter in the world at the time (McClellan defeated Jones Jr at the 1988 Golden Gloves and was #1 at Middleweight ahead of Jones Jr in 1993 and 1994). Jones Jr didn't fight Benn. No excuses.

Eubank was rated #3 at 168 in 1995 (behind Jones Jr and Benn) until he lost to Collins. Collins was rated #2 at 168 behind Jones Jr in 1996. Jones Jr didn't fight Eubank or Collins either. He chose to fight Bryd, Thornton and Lucas instead and none of them were even ranked in the top 10 at 168 at the time of fighting Jones Jr. I rest my case.