Bob Arum: "Only way Pac-Mayweather happens is without additional testing"

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  • Carpe Diem
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    #221
    Mosley accepted the test (even though he's a known steroid user), and the fight is on. That's all Pac and his team had to do, Floyd bended for them, and they didn't return the favour.

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    • Bromhidrosis
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      #222
      Originally posted by P4P305
      December 30:

      David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

      Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

      David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

      Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

      David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

      Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

      David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

      Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine
      lmao a scientist with 30 years exp. why the **** is he interviewing freddie roach.. should he be working for some big shot pharmaceutical company

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      • rao007
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        #223
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Fair enough. Using your logic neither did Floyd. Back to square one?
        Never said he did....until next time.

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        • AKATheMack
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          #224
          Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
          Make your mind up.
          I never once said Manny isnt at fault, but the majority of the blame is to be placed on Mayweather. Manny should take the tests, but Floyd has NO right to demand them. My mind is made up.

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          • champ_kw
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            #225
            Originally posted by deanrw
            Here is something I will throw in there. I make a fairly decent living, but if my company started doing random drug tests, even piss tests, I would quit my job.

            I do not do drugs and have not done weed in almost 15 years, but it is a principle thing.

            Now lets say I was offered a higher paying job that required a general test. I would do it. If they then told me I would have to give invasive tests randomly, again I would refuse.

            To me much of this **** comes down to being dictated to. I am the type of person who likes to be in control of my life. I dictate my life and the direction I go and I refuse to let others dictate to me.

            So manny does the required thing. He does it as it is not invasive for him. Random tests just may be too invasive for his liking.

            You're lying! If your job that's paying you good and putting a roof over your head and food in your belly, said you would have to take a random test to keep working there, you would. It would be nice to think that you hold privacy in that high of regard but you're just being a sensationlist. You post on the internet, and I'm willing to bet you have pics and other personal info sprawled somewhere on the net, even though everything is "fingerprinted". So nothing on here is private....but you want us to believe if your means of living ask you to take a simple random blood test you'd walk out in the name of privacy and principle....yeah sure.

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            • Biolink
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              #226
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Why did Manny agree?
              TBH, Manny never even said anything about religious superstition.

              He did bring up Morales in that regard, but the reasoning was because the date he had blood drawn. Not because of any superstition.

              So honestly I don't see where some people are getting the "He's a devout superstitious Catholic" stuff from in regards to blood testing.

              Also, he's already on the record saying he'd take tests as long as it wasn't the day of the fight(ESPN interview anyone?).

              Also he's never even said anything about Blood Testing being an invasion of his privacy.

              So really, we have a bunch of built-in excuses right here.

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              • GoogleMe
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                #227
                lol, you know why Floyd and those keep saying he's n PED's? It's cause they want him to accept the clause and fight. Pacquiao is just not wanting to fight Floyd.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by rao007
                  Never said he did....until next time.
                  Excellent. You're not as bad as some of the others.

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                  • AKATheMack
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Doesn't him agreeing render your previous post moot?
                    Your train of though is losing me. Floyd was unwilling to fight unless his demands were met. ****ty of Manny to agree and change his mind, but he has more of a right to change his mind that Floyd does to dictate what the rules will be.

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                    • V.WEBB
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Biolink
                      TBH, Manny never even said anything about religious superstition.

                      He did bring up Morales in that regard, but the reasoning was because the date he had blood drawn. Not because of any superstition.

                      So honestly I don't see where some people are getting the "He's a devout superstitious Catholic" stuff from.

                      Also, he's already on the record saying he'd take tests as long as it wasn't the day of the fight(ESPN interview anyone?).

                      Also he's never even said anything about Blood Testing being an invasion of his privacy.

                      So really, we have a bunch of made built-in excuses right here.
                      That alot of people like to overlook and blame another man for. That is really what baffles me.

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