Bob Arum: "Only way Pac-Mayweather happens is without additional testing"

[IMDAZED]

TBH, Manny never even said anything about religious superstition.

He did bring up Morales in that regard, but the reasoning was because the date he had blood drawn. Not because of any superstition.

So honestly I don't see where some people are getting the "He's a devout superstitious Catholic" stuff from in regards to blood testing.

Also, he's already on the record saying he'd take tests as long as it wasn't the day of the fight(ESPN interview anyone?).

Also he's never even said anything about Blood Testing being an invasion of his privacy.

So really, we have a bunch of built-in excuses right here.

Basically, we have a bunch of pathetic fans acting as his lawyers because they know the reasons given are BS and they can't accept reality.

[deanrw]

Please. When the best you can come up with is, "maybe he didn't realize the tests were random", you're scraping the bottom of the barrell.

Some of knew about this **** ages ago so not all of us are so surprised and ****. But just watch how this will keep unfolding.

Do you not understand that Manny is not great at English? Do you not understand that during the negotiations that their were 30000 variations to every quote that someone on the inside made? The misquotes, bull**** and general **** talk was all over the place from both camps.

See you are just sitting there looking to point the finger at someone. Your mind is made up and you are only interested in demonizing someone. You are desperately digging into everything you read to point out something that does not mesh with your current mindset.

I have no agenda here. I just want to see the fight. What you want to do is lay blame and point fingers. You simply picked a side in this. You are no different than the Manny fans arguing the opposite point.

Try sitting in the middle sometime, maybe then you will become more objective.

[IMDAZED]

Your train of though is losing me. Floyd was unwilling to fight unless his demands were met. ****ty of Manny to agree and change his mind, but he has more of a right to change his mind that Floyd does to dictate what the rules will be.

Yeah except Floyd changed his mind as well.

[IMDAZED]

Do you not understand that Manny is not great at English? Do you not understand that during the negotiations that their were 30000 variations to every quote that someone on the inside made? The misquotes, bull**** and general **** talk was all over the place from both camps.

See you are just sitting there looking to point the finger at someone. Your mind is made up and you are only interested in demonizing someone. You are desperately digging into everything you read to point out something that does not mesh with your current mindset.

I have no agenda here. I just want to see the fight. What you want to do is lay blame and point fingers. You simply picked a side in this. You are no different than the Manny fans arguing the opposite point.

Try sitting in the middle sometime, maybe then you will become more objective.

Sorry Dean, I understand that well. And I am sitting right in the middle and calling the BS as I see it. Maybe you should try it.

"Maybe he didn't know the tests would be random."

"He doesn't speak English that well."

Anything else?

[AKATheMack]

Yeah except Floyd changed his mind as well.

If only he was willing to drop the random blood tests we would have been watching May-Pac Saturday.

[damned1974]

The fight fell apart over Floyds request. He requested something out of the norm and was unwilling to fight otherwise.


This fight falling apart has nothing to do with either fighter being scared of the other. It has to do with 2 massive egos who were unwilling budge so that a great fight could be made.

Wouldn't you say a $10,000,000 penalty is "out of the norm"? It is the largest in history for a man who never weighed above the WW limit in such a fight...In fact,can it be perceived as "scaring" the other person in negotiations out of a fight?????

[TheBreakdown]

GL: The Mosley-Mayweather winner is the fight that the world wants to see. What are the chances that happens?

BA: [I] "If Shane Mosley wins there's no chance because he has an obligation to fight Mayweather again as I understand. If Mayweather wins, we certainly want to fight Mayweather, but he's got to come to the table looking to make a regular boxing contract. We're not going to entertain any extra issues regarding drug testing."

WHY IS ARUM & TEAM PAC AFRAID OF "ADDITIONAL TEST" TO ENSURE HE IS CLEAN?

The real reason they don't want blood testing may be that Pac is using EPO PEDS. Not saying that he is, but if you look at his endurance in the late rounds of that 2008 split dicision with Marquez he was tired. 2 days ago he threw 1231 punches and wasn't even tired. EPOs give you the endurance to do things like that just as they helped lance armstrong and numerous athletes. I just find it strange that the best athletes in the world have taken this test, yet, Pac won't. (Shrug).

[IMDAZED]

If only he was willing to drop the random blood tests we would have been watching May-Pac Saturday.

That's true. Now let's get to the specifics here. Do you have an issue with his request?

[V.WEBB]

If only he was willing to drop the random blood tests we would have been watching May-Pac Saturday.

Why should he accept his opponents demand, but drop his own? When they are BOTH negotiating?

[Schmerzen]

we will see, i think the pressure from the media will big enough to make this fight happen, if floyd should beat mosley.