Bob Arum: "Only way Pac-Mayweather happens is without additional testing"

[damned1974]

Sorry Dean, I understand that well. And I am sitting right in the middle and calling the BS as I see it. Maybe you should try it.

"Maybe he didn't know the tests would be random."

"He doesn't speak English that well."

Anything else?

The funny thing is,Manny requires no translator....but then again,even if he had one,they would say "it was the translator's words" not Manny's"....

[deanrw]

Sorry Dean, I understand that well. And I am sitting right in the middle and calling the BS as I see it. Maybe you should try it.

"Maybe he didn't know the tests would be random."

"He doesn't speak English that well."

Anything else?

I will continue wishing to see the fight. You can sit there and argue a point that you will never win with anyone. That goes for everyone in here. If you enjoy that **** by all means. But man I have to tell you. I never thought you would get ****** into all of this. You are a top guy in my book.

[AKATheMack]

Wouldn't you say a $10,000,000 penalty is "out of the norm"? It is the largest in history for a man who never weighed above the WW limit in such a fight...In fact,can it be perceived as "scaring" the other person in negotiations out of a fight?????

I will say this again. Yes it is out of the norm and had the fight fallen apart at that point I would blame Pac, but seeing as the fight fell apart because of Floyds random blood testing issue instead I place the blame on him.

That's true. Now let's get to the specifics here. Do you have an issue with his request?

None at all. I understand why Floyd would request the testing, it doesnt change the fact the blame falls at his feet if the fight falls apart over that request.

[rao007]

You just told probably the biggest Pacquiao hater on the board that he's on his nuts?

Go back to worshipping your god, Samurai, prostrating and thinking of ways to give Pacquiao fellatio. He didn't accept the 14 day cutt off because he needs to load up EPO 4 weeks before the fight or scared his daddy, Money Mai, would make him look like a one-handed figher that he's always been.

[Dehydrator]

This is getting ******ed.

I mean take the ****ing test and lets getting on!!


This is why guys like Cotto, SOto, Mosley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this bitches.

I mean When has Cotto or the guys I mention ***** out because of ****** demands and didnt agree to certain resquest to make a fight?

**** is ******!!

Stop talking about Cotto, he agreed with Pacquiao 'cause he wanted to get paid with the biggest check he'll ever earn at that particular time.

Pacquiao and Floyd are using their big names to cash in and also to play the mind games to hype a mega fight between the two. Unfortunately, the fighters you mentioned doesn't have the privilege as of yet to do so.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Sorry Dean, I understand that well. And I am sitting right in the middle and calling the BS as I see it. Maybe you should try it.

"Maybe he didn't know the tests would be random."

"He doesn't speak English that well."

Anything else?

Pathetic excuses if you ask me!!!

[Biolink]

The funny thing is,Manny requires no translator....but then again,even if he had one,they would say "it was the translator's words" not Manny's"....

That's a garbage excuse if I've ever heard one.

In relation to Manny's education you could say I'm well educated. I've taken numerous Spanish classes before up to the College level, and I still don't understand the language.

Manny dropped out of school in the 3rd grade and can understand and speak fluent(If a bit raw) English

[Young Herschel]

If Mayweather wins May 1st the HBO willl . . .

Pac is to great to take a test, athletes like Bolt, Kobe, Lebron, Armstrong, Federer, Williams Sisters, Phelps, etc... have taken.

break some backs to make this fight. It will gage the pubilc interest worldwide and then it will measure the world's pulse for random Olympic -style blood testing regarding this bout. If public opinion sways decisively in either direction then that will influence HBO"s stance on this bout. In today's steriod-saturated sports world, one would have to be criminally negligent to ignore the legions of sports enthusiasts, not merely hardcore boxing fans who have issues with all the PED abusing athletes all across the board.

If having BOTH fighters consent to random Olympic-caliber drug testing will give the HBO board of directors piece of mind then rest assured the legitimacy of this product called PPV boxing that they are selling to the buying publlic willl be upheld. Perhaps some common ground can be meet, but I feel completely confident that the if Team Mayweather digs thier heels in about having BOTH participants undergo random Olympic calliber drug testing that, in today's sports climate, the HBO big shots will side with Team Mayweather and against Team Pacquaio on this issue. If only to pre-empt the slightest shadow of a doubt as to the quality and sportsmanship of this multi-million dollar event.

Maybe someone will propose that both participants go directly from the live ESPN televised weigh-in to a blood testing room there on the site; both of them just as soon as they finish answering a few questions from the press once the final face-to-face showdown pictures have been taken. No, this wouldn't be random but it would, along with a subsequent blood test for both participants directly after the fight had concluded, appease the majority of objective sports skeptics as to whether HBO were complicit in promoting an unethical boxing farce on its buying public. I think it would give the HBO board of directors every confidence that they were doing all that they could REASONABLY be expected to do to; ensuring the quality and legitimacy of the sports product which they wish to profit from in an age where rampant PED abuse and denials have scarred and jaded the buying sports public.

[damned1974]

December 30:

David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine

A funny interview....even a more hilarious opinion on PEDs from Freddie Roach considering he has recently been quoted as saying "Me and Manny don't know what PEDs are"! lmao

[IMDAZED]

I will continue wishing to see the fight. You can sit there and argue a point that you will never win with anyone. That goes for everyone in here. If you enjoy that **** by all means. But man I have to tell you. I never thought you would get ****** into all of this. You are a top guy in my book.

****** into what exactly? What is this? A debate about the issue of performance enhancing drugs involving two of the sport's biggest names? Sorry Dean, I was ****** into that a long time before I began posting here. And if it bothers you that I'm here debating it it's probably because you don't agree with my stance. In fact - whether you care to admit it or not - I'd wager that's EXACTLY why. Cheers.