Bob Arum: "Only way Pac-Mayweather happens is without additional testing"

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

This is getting ******ed.

I mean take the ****ing test and lets getting on!!


This is why guys like Cotto, SOto, Mosley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this bitches.

I mean When has Cotto or the guys I mention ***** out because of ****** demands and didnt agree to certain resquest to make a fight?

**** is ******!!

[deanrw]

You sure are. Starting with that first sentence

Man, people just don't want to see the obvious.

See there is no obvious and that is where you FAIL!!!

You are speculating on hundreds of quoted texts, sound clips, and other things. You are pointing your attention in one direction and focusing on that direction.

What you need to do is step back, look at the situation from both sides and realize that both sides have their argument. Both sides feel justified in their argument and it is at a stalemate. Nothing more and nothing less.

Do I as a boxing fan feel Manny should take the tests? Yes because I want to see the damn fight. Can I put myself in his shoes and see his reasoning for not wanting to take it as far as Floyd wants? Yes I can.

Unless both side meet in the middle, the fight will not happen.

[IMDAZED]

The fight fell apart over Floyds request. He requested something out of the norm and was unwilling to fight otherwise.

Why did Manny agree?

[V.WEBB]

The fight fell apart over Floyds request. He requested something out of the norm and was unwilling to fight otherwise.


This fight falling apart has nothing to do with either fighter being scared of the other. It has to do with 2 massive egos who were unwilling budge so that a great fight could be made.

Make your mind up.

[Carpe Diem]

December 30:

David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine

[IMDAZED]

See there is no obvious and that is where you FAIL!!!

You are speculating on hundreds of quoted texts, sound clips, and other things. You are pointing your attention in one direction and focusing on that direction.

What you need to do is step back, look at the situation from both sides and realize that both sides have their argument. Both sides feel justified in their argument and it is at a stalemate. Nothing more and nothing less.

Do I as a boxing fan feel Manny should take the tests? Yes because I want to see the damn fight. Can I put myself in his shoes and see his reasoning for not wanting to take it as far as Floyd wants? Yes I can.

Unless both side meet in the middle, the fight will not happen.

Please. When the best you can come up with is, "maybe he didn't realize the tests were random", you're scraping the bottom of the barrell.

Some of us knew about this **** ages ago so not all of us are so surprised and ****. But just watch how this will keep unfolding.

[AKATheMack]

Why did Manny agree?

Im not the appropriate person to ask. I have no inside information.

[IMDAZED]

Im not the appropriate person to ask. I have no inside information.

Doesn't him agreeing render your previous post moot?

[damned1974]

I believe the following question should be addressed to the fans with a poll-
"Would Pac-fans want to see Manny take OST and fight Floyd"? I believe the poll would be accompanied by many excuses...
they seem to NOT care where weight penalties come from (even though the fight would be called off), yet they seem extra sensitive over OST.

[Measy1749]

The fight fell apart over Floyds request. He requested something out of the norm and was unwilling to fight otherwise.


This fight falling apart has nothing to do with either fighter being scared of the other. It has to do with 2 massive egos who were unwilling budge so that a great fight could be made.

i agree with this, nothing left to be said. i dont hate manny, i dont think he's doing anything illegal. i just think there were wayyyy too many egos involved. sure floyd has an ego. but ppl ignore the stuff a people like roach and arum say because they are on pac's side. as far as im concerned both them and the mayweathers (excluding floyd) made the situation worse than it had to be.