Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

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  • Cash Cow
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    #161
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    PBF only beat Hatton because it was at 147
    LMAO...When Hatton weighed in @145lbs and he fought between 140 & 145lbs his entire career?...When Hatton has to CUT weight to get to that weight anyway?

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    • AssasinKing
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      #162
      Originally posted by Easy Work
      I wonder why people say Manny has a better resume then? I dont get it..

      so basically it doesnt matter if you beat washed up fighters as long as they are big/recognizable names?
      Make a thread on who faught tougher opponents and we will see who wins

      Prime or non prime....pacs opponents are legends....compare that to floyds

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        #163
        Originally posted by AssasinKing
        Make a thread on who faught tougher opponents and we will see who wins

        Prime or non prime....pacs opponents are legends....compare that to floyds
        Barrera & Morales?.....yes they were legends...but pac didnt fight them at their best.....

        thats like saying Danny Green beating RJJ now equates to him beating the PRIME Roy

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        • S A M U R A I
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          #164
          The standouts on Floyd's resume since December 2002.

          I would say he caught quite a few of his opponents at the right time. Very few have gone on to do anything impressive since losing to Floyd, many have been knocked out and have multiple losses. Had they been prime opponents, this is unlikely to have happened unless he gave them the beatings of their lives.


          Castillo: 12 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had four losses on his record at the time of meeting Floyd, all by KO.

          Gatti: 14 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had 6 losses and been in brutal wars. RIP.

          Mitchell: Old southpaw, done nothing at welterweight. Done nothing since Tszyu knocked him out a year earlier. Shopworn, 17 years / 60 fights into a pro career.

          Judah: Was destroyed by Kostya Tszyu, lost to Cory Spinks, and most importantly, lost to Baldomir before fighting Floyd. 10 years into a pro career. Useless as a Welterweight.

          Baldomir. 60 fights including 9 losses (now 12), super low KO ratio, and a career spanning 13 years at the time of fighting Mayweather.

          Oscar: More 'Olden Boy' than 'Golden Boy'. 15 years and 42 fights into his career. SD against a faded Oscar is an unimpressive result.

          Hatton: Completely out of his depth at elite level. Collazo had Hatton out on his feet in a fight where Ricky's cracks really started to appear. Not prime, but definitely on a downward slope and 43 fights and 10 years into his pro career.

          Marquez: Brilliant fighter when he isn't pumped full of quayle eggs and piss. Totally out of his depth above 135. Aging veteran with 55 fights and four losses under his belt in a career 16 years deep.



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          • Calilloyd
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            #165
            [QUOTE=MakeDamnSure;7007355]Corrales was weight drained

            Yeah he was so weight drained that he decided to fight at the same weight for almost 4 more years.

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              #166
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              The standouts on Floyd's resume since December 2002.

              I would say he caught quite a few of his opponents at the right time. Very few have gone on to do anything impressive since losing to Floyd, many have been knocked out and have multiple losses. Had they been prime opponents, this is unlikely to have happened unless he gave them the beatings of their lives.


              Castillo: 12 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had four losses on his record at the time of meeting Floyd, all by KO.

              Gatti: 14 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had 6 losses and been in brutal wars. RIP.

              Mitchell: Old southpaw, done nothing at welterweight. Done nothing since Tszyu knocked him out a year earlier. Shopworn, 17 years / 60 fights into a pro career.

              Judah: Was destroyed by Kostya Tszyu, lost to Cory Spinks, and most importantly, lost to Baldomir before fighting Floyd. 10 years into a pro career. Useless as a Welterweight.

              Baldomir. 60 fights including 9 losses (now 12), super low KO ratio, and a career spanning 13 years at the time of fighting Mayweather.

              Oscar: More 'Olden Boy' than 'Golden Boy'. 15 years and 42 fights into his career. SD against a faded Oscar is an unimpressive result.

              Hatton: Completely out of his depth at elite level. Collazo had Hatton out on his feet in a fight where Ricky's cracks really started to appear. Not prime, but definitely on a downward slope and 43 fights and 10 years into his pro career.
              Marquez: Brilliant fighter when he isn't pumped full of quayle eggs and piss. Totally out of his depth above 135. Aging veteran with 55 fights and four losses under his belt in a career 16 years deep.
              At 126-130. We're talking about a natural Jr WW. Neither was Hatton on a downward slope, that was all Collazo.

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              • Calilloyd
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                #167
                [QUOTE=S a m u r a i;7009735]The standouts on Floyd's resume since December 2002.

                I would say he caught quite a few of his opponents at the right time. Very few have gone on to do anything impressive since losing to Floyd, many have been knocked out and have multiple losses. Had they been prime opponents, this is unlikely to have happened unless he gave them the beatings of their lives.


                Castillo: 12 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had four losses on his record at the time of meeting Floyd, all by KO.


                Castillo was a champion in his prime when he fought Mayweather and you have nothing to support otherwise. You look silly saying this. And Casdtillo's losses were from cuts not KO's. Manny Pacquiao has been knocked out twice and has over 50 fights. Is he a soft opponent too because of that?



                Gatti: 14 years / 45 fights into a pro career. Had 6 losses and been in brutal wars. RIP.


                Gatti had won 5 fights in a row under Buddy McGirt. Including an impressive first round KO over unbeaten Dorrin for the belt. The same Leonard Dorin who was robbed(draw)against Paul Spadafora in a title fight. Gatti held a belt. But suddenly Gatti becomes "shot" for the Mayweather fight? How convenient.

                Mitchell: Old southpaw, done nothing at welterweight. Done nothing since Tszyu knocked him out a year earlier. Shopworn, 17 years / 60 fights into a pro career.

                Judah: Was destroyed by Kostya Tszyu, lost to Cory Spinks, and most importantly, lost to Baldomir before fighting Floyd. 10 years into a pro career. Useless as a Welterweight.

                Funny that you failed to mention that he knocked Spinks out in the rematch for the title. And the first fight was close and controversial. If you're not going to tell the whole story why tell it at all?

                Baldomir. 60 fights including 9 losses (now 12), super low KO ratio, and a career spanning 13 years at the time of fighting Mayweather.

                Baldimer was champion and if Mayweather didn't fight him he would have been accused of ducking Baldimer like Brian Kenny tried to imply.



                Oscar: More 'Olden Boy' than 'Golden Boy'. 15 years and 42 fights into his career. SD against a faded Oscar is an unimpressive result.

                Hatton: Completely out of his depth at elite level. Collazo had Hatton out on his feet in a fight where Ricky's cracks really started to appear. Not prime, but definitely on a downward slope and 43 fights and 10 years into his pro career.



                Hatton beat Collazo in a competitive fight and knocked him down in the first round. You seem to think that was a one round fight since you only talk about the final minutes of the last round.
                Last edited by Calilloyd; 12-18-2009, 03:01 PM.

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                • dans
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  Watch Mayweather lose in this poll.
                  Seriously, it's not even close. You have to be a real nuthugger to vote for Pac on this one.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                    The standouts on Floyd's resume since December 2002.

                    I would say he caught quite a few of his opponents at the right time. Very few have gone on to do anything impressive since losing to Floyd, many have been knocked out and have multiple losses. Had they been prime opponents, this is unlikely to have happened unless he gave them the beatings of their lives.


                    Castillo: 12 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had four losses on his record at the time of meeting Floyd, all by KO.

                    Gatti: 14 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had 6 losses and been in brutal wars. RIP.

                    Mitchell: Old southpaw, done nothing at welterweight. Done nothing since Tszyu knocked him out a year earlier. Shopworn, 17 years / 60 fights into a pro career.

                    Judah: Was destroyed by Kostya Tszyu, lost to Cory Spinks, and most importantly, lost to Baldomir before fighting Floyd. 10 years into a pro career. Useless as a Welterweight.

                    Baldomir. 60 fights including 9 losses (now 12), super low KO ratio, and a career spanning 13 years at the time of fighting Mayweather.

                    Oscar: More 'Olden Boy' than 'Golden Boy'. 15 years and 42 fights into his career. SD against a faded Oscar is an unimpressive result.

                    Hatton: Completely out of his depth at elite level. Collazo had Hatton out on his feet in a fight where Ricky's cracks really started to appear. Not prime, but definitely on a downward slope and 43 fights and 10 years into his pro career.

                    Marquez: Brilliant fighter when he isn't pumped full of quayle eggs and piss. Totally out of his depth above 135. Aging veteran with 55 fights and four losses under his belt in a career 16 years deep.
                    I like you and all Sam. But this has got to be one of the worst posts I've ever seen you make. Just pure ****.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Easy Work
                      Barrera & Morales?.....yes they were legends...but pac didnt fight them at their best.....
                      They were legends................pls name a legendary opponent Floyd fought.

                      NADA.

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