Roy Jones Jr. The ducks he made at supermiddleweight.

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  • IMDAZED
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    #211
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    Glen Johnson (Who beat Jones)
    Trinidad (who was always a 154/160lbs anyway boiling down to 147)
    Pavlik (Who beat prime!! Taylor, who beat Wink & Spinks, Hopkins 2x)
    Tarver ( who beat Jones 2x, Griffin, Reggie & Glen Johnson, Woods)
    Wink (Who beat Mosley 2x, robbed against Vargas, beat Quartey, Tito.
    DLH who was a Light middleweight be the time he fought Hopkins, wins over Vargas, Castillej and what should of been a rematch win over Mosley

    John David Jackson
    Keith Holmes
    William Joppy
    He did beat Glen Johnson. Props to him and he was very impressive. Unfortunately, Johnson just wasn't very good at that point - as evidenced by several losses afterward. Some were controversial, some were clear losses. It's not what you try to make it out to be.

    Trinidad was his best win IMO. Not as good as Jones' best win but a great win, nevertheless.

    The jury is still out on Pavlik. Aside from beating Taylor (once, and barely the second time), his only other notable win came against a clubfighter.

    Tarver is Hopkins' second best win IMO. And a damn good one.

    Winky was 35, fat and in over his head at 170. Come on.

    De La Hoya? The one coming off a loss to Sturm? The former lightweight turned welter? Umm...ok.

    John David Jackson? Keith Holmes? William Joppy? And you're complaining about Reggie Johnson?

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      #212
      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
      Like Jeff Lacy you dont get extra points for misplaced perception of a fighters credentials.

      Fact is Reggie Johnson was past his best and fought like it against Jones.
      Past his best is one thing. Jones was past his best when he beat Ruiz. That doesn't matter when you're still very good.

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        #213
        Originally posted by TheGreatA
        Reggie Johnson himself admitted that along with the Jones fight, the Tarver fight was the only other one he felt he clearly lost.
        Honestly, I don't know how that decision was split.

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          #214
          William Guthrie was hyped but in truth he just wasn't what he was made out to be. Not sure if he should have had a belt either which I felt was unjustly stripped off of Dariusz Michalczewski. Guthrie got to beat the very average Darrin Allen for the belt and was then brutally knocked out by a past it Reggie Johnson.

          Reggie didn't look very good in this title defense:

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            #215
            Originally posted by TheGreatA
            William Guthrie was hyped but in truth he just wasn't what he was made out to be. Not sure if he should have had a belt either which I felt was unjustly stripped off of Dariusz Michalczewski. Guthrie got to beat the very average Darrin Allen for the belt and was then brutally knocked out by a past it Reggie Johnson.

            Reggie didn't look very good in this title defense:

            I have youtube blocked at work. Was that his defense against Klementsen?

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #216
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              He did beat Glen Johnson. Props to him and he was very impressive. Unfortunately, Johnson just wasn't very good at that point - as evidenced by several losses afterward. Some were controversial, some were clear losses. It's not what you try to make it out to be.

              Trinidad was his best win IMO. Not as good as Jones' best win but a great win, nevertheless.

              The jury is still out on Pavlik. Aside from beating Taylor (once, and barely the second time), his only other notable win came against a clubfighter.

              Tarver is Hopkins' second best win IMO. And a damn good one.

              Winky was 35, fat and in over his head at 170. Come on.

              De La Hoya? The one coming off a loss to Sturm? The former lightweight turned welter? Umm...ok.


              John David Jackson? Keith Holmes? William Joppy? And you're complaining about Reggie Johnson?


              William Joppy...and you're


              You said right there controversial losses. Johnson was as tough and durable as he was when he fought Jones.

              Jones best win was prolly Toney, we know how that story goes. Tito was more dangerous to a 30+ year old Hopkins than a weight drain Toney. Tito just annihilated William Joppy. Toney was in no better condition than DLH who fought Pacquaio if the truth be told.

              Pavlik is still the undisputed Champ and his wins over Taylor legitimize him as as an excellent win, certainly just as credible as a past prime Reggie J.


              Wink did not look fat to me. Ive heard Jones say that Wink walks about at 175. How old was Hopkins when he fought Wink? precisely.

              Sturm fight just showed that DLH was overlooking Sturm and did not train properly, did he look that soft when he fought Hopkins? no, did he hold his own in the fight? yes. DLH clearly struggled with Sturm because he did not take him seriously.



              John David Jackson? Keith Holmes? William Joppy? And you're complaining about Reggie Johnson?


              Well they are just solid wins like the Reggie fight.
              Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 12-03-2009, 11:21 AM.

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                #217
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                I have youtube blocked at work. Was that his defense against Klementsen?
                That's it.

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                  #218
                  How about you make one for Kessler, Bat.

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                    #219
                    Okay to be fair to Reggie he was injured but he wasn't amazing against Will Taylor either.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                      Glen Johnson (Who beat Jones)
                      Trinidad (who was always a 154/160lbs anyway boiling down to 147)
                      Pavlik (Who beat prime!! Taylor, who beat Spinks, Hopkins 2x)
                      Tarver ( who beat Jones 2x, Griffin, Reggie & Glen Johnson, Woods)
                      Wink (Who beat Mosley 2x, robbed against Vargas, beat Quartey, Tito.
                      DLH who was a Light middleweight be the time he fought Hopkins, wins over Vargas, Castillej and what should of been a rematch win over Mosley

                      John David Jackson
                      Keith Holmes
                      William Joppy
                      Winky was not robbed in that fight. Vargas won by a point or 2.

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