Manny Pacquiao is greater then Pernell Whitaker - Bert Sugar

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  • baracuda
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    #71
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    Bert Sugar also thinks Jack Dempsey is the greatest heavyweight ever............
    no he does'nt ....he ranks ali at # 2......lyin ass....

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    • Calilloyd
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      #72
      [QUOTE=Hyde;6786653]imo Manny Pacquiao is greater than Whitaker, both in terms of resume and accomplishments.

      Pac's resume:

      Oscar De La Hoya
      Ricky Hatton
      Miguel Cotto
      Juan Manuel Marquez
      Marco Antonio Barrera(x2)
      Erik Morales(x2)

      Whitaker's resume:

      Julio Cesar Chavez(he won that fight)
      Diosbelys Hurtado
      Greg Haugen
      Roger Mayweather
      Azumah Nelson
      Jorge Paez

      Uh...nice job omitting whitAkers big wins. add:


      Buddy Mcgirt 2x(Weltweight championship)

      Julio Caesar Vasquez( Jr Middlweight championship) NO CATCH WEIGHT

      Jose Luis Ramirez( Lightweight Championship)

      Juan Nazario (Lightweight unification)


      Rafael pineda (Junior weltwerweight championship)

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        #73
        Originally posted by Calilloyd
        Bert Sugar also thinks Jack Dempsey is the greatest heavyweight ever............
        I haven't heard that but I have his book 100 greatest boxers and he has Joe Louis as like #3 or 4 and Ali as # 7 out of everyone so I think he probably has 1 of them as the top Heavyweight. I could be wrong.

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          #74
          Originally posted by sweetpea87
          I haven't heard that but I have his book 100 greatest boxers and he has Joe Louis as like #3 or 4 and Ali as # 7 out of everyone so I think he probably has 1 of them as the top Heavyweight. I could be wrong.
          He ranks Dempsey as number 1 and has gone on record saying it.

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            #75
            [QUOTE=Calilloyd;6789950]
            Originally posted by Hyde
            imo Manny Pacquiao is greater than Whitaker, both in terms of resume and accomplishments.

            Pac's resume:

            Oscar De La Hoya
            Ricky Hatton
            Miguel Cotto
            Juan Manuel Marquez
            Marco Antonio Barrera(x2)
            Erik Morales(x2)

            Whitaker's resume:

            Julio Cesar Chavez(he won that fight)
            Diosbelys Hurtado
            Greg Haugen
            Roger Mayweather
            Azumah Nelson
            Jorge Paez

            Uh...nice job omitting whitAkers big wins. add:


            Buddy Mcgirt 2x(Weltweight championship)

            Julio Caesar Vasquez( Jr Middlweight championship) NO CATCH WEIGHT
            you forgot his fight with chavez was also at a catchweight of 145 for the wbc ww belt.........lol

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              #76
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              He ranks Dempsey as number 1 and has gone on record saying it.
              proof..the last time isaw someone posting bert sugar's list, ali was # 2...

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                #77
                Originally posted by baracuda
                no he does'nt ....he ranks ali at # 2......lyin ass....
                As usual you run your mouth without having a clue about what you're talking about. And last I checked 2 comes after 1. So who's lying now?

                Bert Sugar rates Jack Dempsey as the # 1 all time pound for pound heavyweight. Nat Fleischer rated him #4 on his all time heavyweight list. He also considered Dempsey the best infighter and best two handed hitter among all heavyweight champions. Charley Rose rated him # 3. Eric Jorgensen rates him #2. Cox's Corner rates him # 6.


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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd
                  As usual you run your mouth without having a clue about what you're talking about. And last I checked 2 comes after 1. So who's lying now?

                  Bert Sugar rates Jack Dempsey as the # 1 all time pound for pound heavyweight. Nat Fleischer rated him #4 on his all time heavyweight list. He also considered Dempsey the best infighter and best two handed hitter among all heavyweight champions. Charley Rose rated him # 3. Eric Jorgensen rates him #2. Cox's Corner rates him # 6.


                  how about whitaker fighting jcc at a catchweight of 145?......lol

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                    #79
                    [QUOTE=baracuda;6789998]
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd

                    you forgot his fight with chavez was also at a catchweight of 145 for the wbc ww belt.........lol

                    That was for Chavez benefit, not Whitaker's. Whitaker was the welterweight champion. Apparently you are not very truthful when it comes to boxing. I guess it's much more convenient to lie and rewrite history.

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                      #80
                      [QUOTE=Calilloyd;6790070]
                      Originally posted by baracuda


                      That was for Chavez benefit, not Whitaker's. Whitaker was the welterweight champion. Apparently you are not very truthful when it comes to boxing. I guess it's much more convenient to lie and rewrite history.
                      aha...so whitaker did jcc a favor huh....lol...yeah right....

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