Manny Pacquiao is greater then Pernell Whitaker - Bert Sugar

[damned1974]

this is for you damned1974;

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=328851

Look- the only thing I am seeing on there is fan mentality on that thread-I don't see a valid debate.When I asked which slick fighter Manny has fought,then some people must assume that it is a racial thing-or because of what Nate Campbell had said-that is seperate to what I am saying.The truth is,I cannot find a match Manny has been in,where he is fighting someone who is slick- it doesn't mean it's his fault.I have,however, mentioned how I think there is a bit of "smoke and mirrors" with his last 4 fights and I have given legitimate reasoning and facts.Keep in mind,I love this sport,I am not a fan of any certain fighter-I don't have a favourite fighter as I like a lot of different styles...
I think the mentality for most fans here is to buy into the hype of a certain fighter,buy the ppv against a guy with more disadvantages than not,and claim him the next Sugar Ray Robinson- that is what Bob Arum is doing to a degree with Pacquiao. Don't get me wrong though,because as I have mentioned before,I think Manny is good at what he does,but against someone like Mayweather-I feel the odds are against him.I also give Manny 100% props if he wins,but as of right now,I will be level-headed and not buy into the b.s. I have noticed with the hype and Manny's last 4 fights.....make sense?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

I can't believe people really think Pacquiao ducked Nate Campbell. Wow.

this is the internet brah. I can do a interview with boxingscene & say pac is ducking me & trust me there will be plenty of idiots ready to agree just for the sake of dragging down a fighter they dont like.

Look- the only thing I am seeing on there is fan mentality on that thread-I don't see a valid debate.When I asked which slick fighter Manny has fought,then some people must assume that it is a racial thing-or because of what Nate Campbell had said-that is seperate to what I am saying.The truth is,I cannot find a match Manny has been in,where he is fighting someone who is slick- it doesn't mean it's his fault.I have,however, mentioned how I think there is a bit of "smoke and mirrors" with his last 4 fights and I have given legitimate reasoning and facts.Keep in mind,I love this sport,I am not a fan of any certain fighter-I don't have a favourite fighter as I like a lot of different styles...
I think the mentality for most fans here is to buy into the hype of a certain fighter,buy the ppv against a guy with more disadvantages than not,and claim him the next Sugar Ray Robinson- that is what Bob Arum is doing to a degree with Pacquiao. Don't get me wrong though,because as I have mentioned before,I think Manny is good at what he does,but against someone like Mayweather-I feel the odds are against him.I also give Manny 100% props if he wins,but as of right now,I will be level-headed and not buy into the b.s. I have noticed with the hype and Manny's last 4 fights.....make sense?

I gave you proof, boxing proof & statistics & records of the one percieved great slick american boxer that Afraid Mayweather jr. fought.

NON slick great hall of fame fighters > mediocre slick american figters.

[joartcc5]

So what clan of posters do you associate me with?

U can't really lecture somebody

On their language

When U post like this, to...

Still dont get it do u.

U people are so dumb its not funny.

[RingTech01]

bert sugar claims that tyson punched a whole through his dressing room door and his fist landed right in front of spink's face who was in the neighboring room. also that pep won a round without throwing a punch. his top 25 consists of fighters who were around before color television and cable. he lost credability a long time ago.

[joartcc5]

bert sugar claims that tyson punched a whole through his dressing room door and his fist landed right in front of spink's face who was in the neighboring room. also that pep won a round without throwing a punch. his top 25 consists of fighters who were around before color television and cable. he lost credability a long time ago.

By whose standards???

You?

Lols!

[RingTech01]

By whose standards???

You?

Lols!

i'm guessing you've been reading my posts and following me around. go play somewhere.

[damned1974]

this is the internet brah. I can do a interview with boxingscene & say pac is ducking me & trust me there will be plenty of idiots ready to agree just for the sake of dragging down a fighter they dont like.



I gave you proof, boxing proof & statistics & records of the one percieved great slick american boxer that Afraid Mayweather jr. fought.

NON slick great hall of fame fighters > mediocre slick american figters.

LOL-so you are assuming that because fighter "A" beats fighter "B",that fighter "C" wins-honestly,that's poor judgement-I wouldn't place money on that sort of generalized failed logic.I also wonder why you involve nationalities in this-that is what I mean by adopting a "fan" mentality.If you come from an immature stance that favours someone based on nationalities,bias or whom your "favourite" fighter is-I can care less to listen,but if you want to think for yourself,and as a fan of the sport-I am all ears.btw-Do you want to comment on his last 4 fights, or are you going to buy into all the hype and declare these as brilliant wins that should elevate someone into an atg status-because honestly I don't buy it....

[Chew BackAtacha]

IMO its not even close pacquiao was just ahead in whitaker in the atg standings.

think about that for a minute

[sweetpea87]

sweetpea much better when it come to defense

For sure, I think that some people might think Manny is better because he has a harder punch and has been knocking people out, where Pernell was fine with kicking your ass over 12 rounds and taking an easy decision. I still go with my man Whitaker.

[Calilloyd]

Pretty Bold statement considering Sweat Pea is considered one the greats of the modern era.

His interview with Steve Kim can be found here, good listen btw.

http://www.maxboxing.com/the-main-ev...11409wardsugar

Bert Sugar also thinks Jack Dempsey is the greatest heavyweight ever............