Roy Jones Jr and his "Greatness" ???

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  • The Troll
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    #71
    Michalczewski's style is just plain all wrong for Jones in any year at any time...even now

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    • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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      #72
      McKay... You seem very "PRO - Michalczewski"... And I know the P4P bull**** that we get from the Americans, (eg... Just compare the level of competition faced by Erik Morales over the last 7yrs with that of Bernard Hopkins!... LOL!).

      But take all that P4P crap away from Roy Jones Junior... despite his "ducking" he was a VERY good fighter, and I reckon, would have beaten Michalczewski...

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      • Neuraxis
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        #73
        Originally posted by wmute
        why don't you tell us something about the 2nd fight, this is ridiculous... you are holding against jones his DQ loss against a guy he KOed 1 in the rematch... it's not ali-frazier or barrera-morales or the first few robinson-lamotta, saddler-pepp fights, we are not talking close battles: the rematch was ko1, knock out in round 1.
        Not some random punch but a total destruction of the louis-schmeling 2 type or prime tyson vs nobody.

        and the first fight was won by griffin on the canvas...
        oh wait that's the way you think DM would have won against jones, now I see the picture
        In Griffin's brother's own words after he fought DM, "Montell felt treated unjust in the Olympic Games and in the second Jones fight, where he was rushed into the ring before he could warm up. But there is no doubt that he lost tonight."

        Yeah and Griffin was owning him in the first fight, so what's your point.
        Last edited by Neuraxis; 03-30-2005, 06:46 PM.

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        • Neuraxis
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          #74
          Originally posted by McKay
          There is no way Roy would whitewash Michalczewski. Jones' power would not keep Michalczewski off. Michalczewski would pursue him with his excellent left jab and eventually start to land and then start landing power punches and eventually KO Jones. Michalczewski had very quick feet so its not like Jones would dance around him all night, not a possiblity.

          Michalczewski's jab is so powerfull he could stagger Jones wit his straight left alone.
          The Jones's fanboys here have never seen a prime DM fight during his prime. They'll continue to show there blind love for Roy Jones Jr. no matter what you say.

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          • tnom
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            #75
            Originally posted by Neuraxis
            The Jones's fanboys here have never seen a prime DM fight during his prime. They'll continue to show there blind love for Roy Jones Jr. no matter what you say.
            That may be true about the "fanboys." But those who keep championing DM are missing one point: if he'd wanted the fight so bad, he could have come over to LV anytime to do it. It is his dependence on European locales that kept this fight from happening. The PPV folks rely on boxing fans as their core base, of course, but the gravy's in the semi-interested fan--the one they can't count on--calling up and ordering the fight. And that's going to happen if RJJ's name is on the card--not Michelczewski's.

            Jones brought thousands of fairweather fans (and in show business, it's about the money, honey) to the fight game. His fights were exciting, talked about, and watched by many more than the usual core. Good on him for promoting the hell outta the sport.

            I don't have any blind love for any fighter. Impress me, and I'll give you props. And RJJ impressed me. With his speed and his heart--a heart which marked the end of his career as much as his rise. I think he was done because he lost the hunger, not because he lost the ability.

            Top 10 all-time middleweight? Probably. Top 10 all-time promoter of the sport? Unquestionably.

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            • Shaolin Bushido
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              #76
              Originally posted by Neuraxis
              The Jones's fanboys here have never seen a prime DM fight during his prime. They'll continue to show there blind love for Roy Jones Jr. no matter what you say.
              You don't know me but you are right. I am a huge RJJ fan and he dominated every fighter he got in the ring with for years.

              This,"Michalczewski's jab is so powerfull he could stagger Jones wit his straight left alone.", is bull****.

              Jones at his peak and Mich at his; how would that play out again?

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              • Shaolin Bushido
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                #77
                Originally posted by Neuraxis
                The Jones's fanboys here have never seen a prime DM fight during his prime. They'll continue to show there blind love for Roy Jones Jr. no matter what you say.
                Hypothetically speaking ... if you'd never seen Roy fight and did see only Darius who the **** would you be picking now?

                The same guy but you'd be ignorant as **** concerning Roy. Hmm, maybe you are anyway.

                I haven't seen Darius but many of my friends have who are great boxing guys. I've discussed this on a level unlikely to be matched here but I've yet to see many guys who fairly glow talkin about Mich's skills without a protagonist.

                Lessee, he's aggressive, can take a punch, slow ...

                You'll have to help out here, that's all I've heard.

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                • Shaolin Bushido
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Neuraxis
                  Like I've already said, just like he whitewashed Griffin in their first fight.
                  Well, he did knock him the **** out. Got disqualified for it. But Montell was taking a knee for somehting wasn't he?

                  Maybe it was gas or something.

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                    #79
                    With DM it was as much his fault the fight didn't happen as it was Jones. He could have come here, if he really wanted the fight. Jones refused to fight across seas, and this guy refused to. It's silly to say Jones ducked him.

                    Also, with Griffin - Jones I. Were we all watching the same fight? Jones lost a bunch of rounds early, but he was on an upward curve. He was going to beat Griffin. Even if his punch was illegal, he would have won on points, or KOed him later. He had put him down in the 7th, which would have evened the match. Had he not been DQ'ed the fight would have already been in Jones favor, because of two KD's. The fight would have ended with Griffin losing, just as the second fight did. And let us all remember the second fight where Jones abused Griffin.

                    Shoalin, the punch that hurt him was illegal. But then again, Griffin wasn't exactly fighting clean either, remember the shoulder?
                    Last edited by BadMagick; 03-30-2005, 07:36 PM.

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                      #80
                      Dude, I may be a goose, but how do you get photos to come up in your sig??!!

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