Roy Jones Jr and his "Greatness" ???

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  • Dude
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    #161
    Originally posted by McKay
    Triangle theories?
    yeah whatever

    this is no triangle theory, its pure logic

    Michalczewski dropped Griffin in 4

    Griffin beat Toney twice

    This is applying pure logic, nothing else.

    Why I bother arguing wiith a punk like you is the question, your allergic to facts and logic.
    It's been proven over and over again that this kind of logic isn't worth **** in boxing. Frazier beats Ali. Ali beats Foreman. Frazier beats Foreman? Styles make fights pal, that's what makes this sport interessting.
    Last edited by Dude; 04-01-2005, 09:51 PM.

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    • NAB
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      #162
      Have a nice day, Lads.
      I'm off to watch some Aussie Rules football!!

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      • oldgringo
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        #163
        Originally posted by McKay
        Toney is a horrilble agressor, he was lucky against nunn, and nunn must have had a weak chin to be taken out on 1 punch like that, but Toney was so lucky in that fight.

        Toney is 1/10th the agressor Michalczewski is. So dont even go there.

        Don't be an idiot. I didn't make the comparison with DM about Toney's aggressiveness. I agree that DM is a better aggressor than Toney.

        I said that by you stating that Toney is a "horrible" aggressor, you are making an exaggerated statement...which you are. Toney wasn't really SO lucky in that fight. He caught up to Nunn in the 9th and the momentum was clearly shifting. He hit Nunn with about 6-7 BOMBS before he KO'd him...and Nunn hasn't been KO'd before or since...so you can throw your WEAK CHIN statement out the window. Toney hit Nunn with a big hook before landing the next hook that put him down. Nunn wasn't knocked out with 1 punch, he was put down by an assault after he got up and was knocked down again...the ref stopped the fight.

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        • Neuraxis
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          #164
          Originally posted by McKay
          Toney was 3 levels above Michalczewski hmmm OK

          Thats why Toney lost 2 descisions to Montell Griffin and Michalczewski knocked him out in 4 rounds.
          You forgot Thazdi's MD over Toney as well. DM TKO 9 over Thazdi.

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          • The Troll
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            #165
            Is everybody in agreement that Toney is second best fighter Roy Jones Jr. ever faced, I hope so, dont say it was John Ruiz if your Jones fan especially. If you are in agreement you have to realize the relevancy that the 2 guys Toney lost to were both KO'd by Michalczewski. (Thadzi and Griffin 9 and 4)

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            • Super_Lightweight
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              #166
              hmm

              It would be easy for someone to argue that Ruiz posed more risk. It was 50/50 in most people's eyes who would win that fight and that was after Roy had dominated Toney.

              Regardless of Toney's past, he has proven that he is a great fighter, just with a low motivaton at times.

              I really hope you are not trying to say that DM's besting of people who beat Toney means that DM would beat Roy. That doesn't make any sense. I mean, what exactly are you trying to say? lol...

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              • oldgringo
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                #167
                Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                It would be easy for someone to argue that Ruiz posed more risk. It was 50/50 in most people's eyes who would win that fight and that was after Roy had dominated Toney.

                Regardless of Toney's past, he has proven that he is a great fighter, just with a low motivaton at times.

                I really hope you are not trying to say that DM's besting of people who beat Toney means that DM would beat Roy. That doesn't make any sense. I mean, what exactly are you trying to say? lol...

                Exactly...

                The old "this guy couldn't beat this guy but fighter X beat those guys twice so fighter X could beat fighter Y" **** never works out. If it were that easy then Trevor Berbick would be better than George Foreman.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by martinwbc
                  Roy Jones Junior was undoubtably an exceptional talent!

                  But I think, he could have been SOOOOO MUCH MORE! Had he not avoided the best in every division?

                  So what will he be remembered as now?
                  Yeah Jones was the man when he was younger....looking back on some of his fights, I get this feeling that he really didn't care about leaving a legacy but rather wanted to be a showman more than anything else. I just wished that a re-match with hopkins happened years ago.

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