Originally posted by McKay
Roy Jones Jr and his "Greatness" ???
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Originally posted by McKayToney is a horrilble agressor, he was lucky against nunn, and nunn must have had a weak chin to be taken out on 1 punch like that, but Toney was so lucky in that fight.
Toney is 1/10th the agressor Michalczewski is. So dont even go there.
Don't be an idiot. I didn't make the comparison with DM about Toney's aggressiveness. I agree that DM is a better aggressor than Toney.
I said that by you stating that Toney is a "horrible" aggressor, you are making an exaggerated statement...which you are. Toney wasn't really SO lucky in that fight. He caught up to Nunn in the 9th and the momentum was clearly shifting. He hit Nunn with about 6-7 BOMBS before he KO'd him...and Nunn hasn't been KO'd before or since...so you can throw your WEAK CHIN statement out the window. Toney hit Nunn with a big hook before landing the next hook that put him down. Nunn wasn't knocked out with 1 punch, he was put down by an assault after he got up and was knocked down again...the ref stopped the fight.Comment
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You forgot Thazdi's MD over Toney as well. DM TKO 9 over Thazdi.Originally posted by McKayToney was 3 levels above Michalczewski hmmm OK
Thats why Toney lost 2 descisions to Montell Griffin and Michalczewski knocked him out in 4 rounds.Comment
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Is everybody in agreement that Toney is second best fighter Roy Jones Jr. ever faced, I hope so, dont say it was John Ruiz if your Jones fan especially. If you are in agreement you have to realize the relevancy that the 2 guys Toney lost to were both KO'd by Michalczewski. (Thadzi and Griffin 9 and 4)Comment
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hmm
It would be easy for someone to argue that Ruiz posed more risk. It was 50/50 in most people's eyes who would win that fight and that was after Roy had dominated Toney.
Regardless of Toney's past, he has proven that he is a great fighter, just with a low motivaton at times.
I really hope you are not trying to say that DM's besting of people who beat Toney means that DM would beat Roy. That doesn't make any sense. I mean, what exactly are you trying to say? lol...Comment
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Originally posted by Super_LightweightIt would be easy for someone to argue that Ruiz posed more risk. It was 50/50 in most people's eyes who would win that fight and that was after Roy had dominated Toney.
Regardless of Toney's past, he has proven that he is a great fighter, just with a low motivaton at times.
I really hope you are not trying to say that DM's besting of people who beat Toney means that DM would beat Roy. That doesn't make any sense. I mean, what exactly are you trying to say? lol...
Exactly...
The old "this guy couldn't beat this guy but fighter X beat those guys twice so fighter X could beat fighter Y" **** never works out. If it were that easy then Trevor Berbick would be better than George Foreman.Comment
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Yeah Jones was the man when he was younger....looking back on some of his fights, I get this feeling that he really didn't care about leaving a legacy but rather wanted to be a showman more than anything else. I just wished that a re-match with hopkins happened years ago.Originally posted by martinwbcRoy Jones Junior was undoubtably an exceptional talent!
But I think, he could have been SOOOOO MUCH MORE! Had he not avoided the best in every division?
So what will he be remembered as now?Comment
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