HBO 24/7 ratings are significantly down with Pacquiao/Cotto.

[CrackYourJaw]

Where are these numbers coming from?

Because I saw some sources that showed completely different numbers.

[The Underboss]

Cotto-pacman=2 non american fighters

yup.

finally someone understands.

[Kalion]

THIS.

I've been saying this for ages. When Pac is on a HBO PPV and people try and discredit his buy numbers they are completely forgetting he is not from the USA.

Those same people should refrain from claiming he is the face of boxing.

[The Underboss]

Cotto needs to pull a JMM if they want their fight to atleast get some good ratings .

[madsweeney]

Actually, i have been subject to a lot of insults and nonsense from you Filipinos. Non-stop. So, i'm not even going to engage with you.

You are welcome to believe (or not) what you will.

Lol so now your racist? I'm not worthy of data to support your claims because I'm 1/2 Filipino? Damn man your true colors are coming to light.

Love your response though, both of my responses were not insulting, rather, simply asked for you to provide data and I pointed out how you were bashing on Arum of hiding and exaggerating numbers while doing the same in this thread.

[The Underboss]

Those same people should refrain from claiming he is the face of boxing.

he's the 2nd face in boxing when it comes to popularity, he's not as mainstream as floyd though.

floyd is american, that's why he gets the most ratings than pac.

[Doctor_Tenma]

yup.

finally someone understands.

Say Mayorga was as sucessful as Cotto, I'm sure he'd bring in alot of casual fans. They wouldn't even have to know what he was saying

[Al Haymon]

Yea, I was going to reply to his response but the second I saw him say "Thats what Arum said" I knew it was a lost cause. He gives me numbers, and of course I have to believe what he puts, I give him a number that matched everything he's found and his reply is "I don't believe it." Not even worth my time.

Beater,

if you read post #88, you will see that I gave you the numbers that I have.

I have Pbf-Ricky as 20% lower than you...and Pac-JMM as 10% lower than you.

In fact, if you want the entire PPV history that I have, i will gladly give it to you.

If you don't want to discuss the data, enjoy yourself in another thread.

[Al Haymon]

he's the 2nd face in boxing when it comes to popularity, he's not as mainstream as floyd though.

floyd is american, that's why he gets the most ratings than pac.

Is that why? Or is it because he makes a conscious effort to cross over by exposing himself to mainstream, non-boxing venues?

[madsweeney]

Is that why? Or is it because he makes a conscious effort to cross over by exposing himself to mainstream, non-boxing venues?

You mean like Pac does in the Phillipines?!? C'mon man, every all time top draws in America has been American.