HBO 24/7 ratings are significantly down with Pacquiao/Cotto.

[Beater_of_ass]

Beater,

if you read post #88, you will see that I gave you the numbers that I have.

I have Pbf-Ricky as 20% lower than you...and Pac-JMM as 10% lower than you.

In fact, if you want the entire PPV history that I have, i will gladly give it to you.

If you don't want to discuss the data, enjoy yourself in another thread.

I don't even care, because with the Pac/Hatton fight you are arguing 50k of buys. You are doing nothing but arguing about crap that does nothing but support my argument, if anything it shows Cotto is even closer to hitting the numbers of Pac/PBF than I gave him credit for you made my argument stronger for me you should have just stfu while you were ahead.

[The Underboss]

Is that why?

Yes that is why.

How many non-american boxers in the past do you know have reached the same mainstream level American fighters have reached in their careers??

[Beater_of_ass]

Yes that is why.

How many non-american boxers in the past do you know have reached the same mainstream level American fighters have reached in their careers??

I'd say guys like Felix Trinidad, Julio Ceasar Chavez, Roberto Duran all did pretty well for themselves. Trinidad had some monsterous PPV buys second only behind DLH at the time, and being second behind the highest grossing PPV guy in history isn't a bad place to be.

[Easy-E]

No suprise here, both guys are pretty quiet, boring personalities.

[The Underboss]

I'd say guys like Felix Trinidad, Julio Ceasar Chavez, Roberto Duran all did pretty well for themselves. Trinidad had some monsterous PPV buys second only behind DLH at the time, and being second behind the highest grossing PPV guy in history isn't a bad place to be.

they did pretty good but they're not american.

are any of them close to being the PPV king? NO.

who's the ppv king? Oscar...what is he? AMERICAN...followed by who? mike tyson...ANOTHER AMERICAN.

if it's not american then it means 0.

[Easy-E]

Yes that is why.

How many non-american boxers in the past do you know have reached the same mainstream level American fighters have reached in their careers??

Really? Just recently we have seen Ricky Hatton develop some mainstream appeal.
Not to mention fighters like Tito Trinidad and Lennox Lewis.

[Easy-E]

they did pretty good but they're not american.

are any of them close to being the PPV king? NO.

who's the ppv king? Oscar...what is he? AMERICAN...followed by who? mike tyson...ANOTHER AMERICAN.

if it's not american then it means 0.

so now having mainstream appeal means being the ppv king?

[madsweeney]

Really? Just recently we have seen Ricky Hatton develop some mainstream appeal.
Not to mention fighters like Tito Trinidad and Lennox Lewis.

The point is there's people who become very high caliber draws but the kings are all American.

[The Underboss]

The point is there's people who become very high caliber draws but the kings are all American.

^ thank you.

[Beater_of_ass]

so now having mainstream appeal means being the ppv king?

Seriously. Its the same as stating to have someone be good or have appeal as a basketball from Europe or anywhere else they have to surpass Jordan in skill.