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  • The Big Dunn
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    #171
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    It’s not wild speculation at all, IF it’s true that Crawford was driving recklessly in the middle of the night. Then the police officer was justified in securing the scene after the traffic stop to find out what was going on.
    No he wasn’t. The scene was already secure. The handcuffing went too far because you handcuffed people that had not done anything illegal.

    That is a violation of one’s constitutional rights.

    why You refuse to admit that is mind boggling.

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      #172
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Shoulder Roll

      You can’t give the cops power that the legislature stripped from them.

      You make solid theoretical points. But this is a specific discussion about a specific incident.

      Like it or not, the cops actions here with the gun pulling and handcuffing went too far, which is why the chief is investigating the stop.

      Open carry laws put cops in terrible positions. It makes their jobs more dangerous. it makes them more vulnerable.
      The chief is investigating the stop because that is what he is supposed to do. They investigate any time there is an officer-involved shooting too, and so on.

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        #173
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        And I’m all for open carry.

        Conscientious gun owners know very well that this is a freedom that comes along with plenty of responsibility. You don’t go acting a fool while open carrying.
        Well if this is the case, all your arguing about scene securing and not wanting to get blasted makes no sense.

        Crawford and his passengers are responsible gun owners.

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          #174
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          The chief is investigating the stop because that is what he is supposed to do. They investigate any time there is an officer-involved shooting too, and so on.
          No he is investigating the stop because his officers appear to have handcuffed and detained people that didn’t commit a crime.

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            #175
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            No he wasn’t. The scene was already secure. The handcuffing went too far because you handcuffed people that had not done anything illegal.

            That is a violation of one’s constitutional rights.

            why You refuse to admit that is mind boggling.
            Look, I already said that if the cop is found to have fabricated the “driving recklessly” claim then I will admit he is in the wrong and will say to throw the book at him.

            But if it comes out that Crawford was running stop signs and red lights will you admit that he made some non-smart decisions to put himself in that situation in the first place?

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              #176
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Well if this is the case, all your arguing about scene securing and not wanting to get blasted makes no sense.

              Crawford and his passengers are responsible gun owners.
              Naw. Responsible gun owners don’t go running stop signs and red lights while open carrying.

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                #177
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Look, I already said that if the cop is found to have fabricated the “driving recklessly” claim then I will admit he is in the wrong and will say to throw the book at him.

                But if it comes out that Crawford was running stop signs and red lights will you admit that he made some non-smart decisions to put himself in that situation in the first place?
                Not talking about that dude. Talking about handcuffing them because the gun was on the floor.

                Cops aren’t allowed to handcuff and detain people that haven’t done anything illegal or didn’t commit a crime:

                I already said that. Don’t move the goalposts.

                Driving erratically doesn’t warrant handcuffing and pulling all 4 out of the car.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  Naw. Responsible gun owners don’t go running stop signs and red lights while open carrying.
                  Dude this is dumb as f-ck and you know it. Why even post this.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Not talking about that dude. Talking about handcuffing them because the gun was on the floor.

                    Cops aren’t allowed to handcuff and detain people that haven’t done anything illegal or didn’t commit a crime:

                    I already said that. Don’t move the goalposts.

                    Driving erratically doesn’t warrant handcuffing and pulling all 4 out of the car.
                    So just to be clear. If it comes out that Crawford was running stop signs and red lights you won’t admit that he made some non-smart decisions to put himself in that situation in the first place?

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Dude this is dumb as f-ck and you know it. Why even post this.
                      Here’s an AI Overview for you.

                      Yeah, dumb as f-ck.



                      “In Nebraska, openly carrying a firearm while driving recklessly can result in police detaining you at gunpoint, especially if an officer observes the weapon. Even if you are legally permitted to carry the firearm, the reckless driving and visible gun will be perceived as a safety risk, leading to a heightened law enforcement response.“

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