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  • Damn Wicked
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    #181
    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

    Wrong. Sometimes you have to be the bigger person and swallow your pride to live another day. Lotta time, if a cop acts like a jackass to you but you respond with kindness, then the officer will correct his/her attitude. Just because a cop is being disrespectful, doesn't mean you have to do the same. That's the mindset of a person who wasn't raised right.
    That's exactly how you have to behave when you're pulled over by the cops. I'm white and have been pulled over MANY times here in Toronto, Canada, and throughout the province of Ontario. I've been driving a long time. Some cops are really cool and others have bad attitudes. I've had cops almost raging at me a few times for speeding just 15 kilometres over the speed limit. That's about the equivalent of 7 miles per hour. One cop was calling my minivan a "Crap Can" and a "Piece of sheeet". I'd be an idiot if I got offended and defensive at some angry ******* that could easily choose to increase the fine and add other charges. I'm always amazed at the idiots who try to argue with the cops and resist everything. They should just shut up and deescalate the situation. Even saying some fake, "Sorry officer". It's like some people would rather be right than just get through the traffic stop smoothly. Driver's need to leave their ego at home.

    Me and my brother were also pulled over in his car by a few cops about 8 years ago. A few cops flanked the car from both sides, asked us both for our ID, told us to keep our hands where they could see them and stay put. After checking our ID and scoping out my bros car, they explained that we were driving just a few blocks from a building that was a notorious drug dealing spot with gangs and ****e. The whole time we were stopped we knew not to be offended or insulted that they viewed us as su****ious. In our younger years we would always blame our having long hair (rock 'n' roll hippies) for the cops pulling us over, but then when we cut our hair short we were still getting pulled over at a very similar rate.

    People everywhere have their own biases to why the cops pull them over. The media, friends, family and threads like this one are even feeding the biases and unknowingly teaching us how to think. AND it's that thinking that is not logical or objective. Just like the political madness that has swept through America and the rest of the world (it's always been there but it's even more extreme today). Nobody is rational and thoughtful. They're all just running with a team, a political party, a race, a gender, a country. All of those iden****** are illusory if we look a little deeper.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #182
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      So just to be clear. If it comes out that Crawford was running stop signs and red lights you won’t admit that he made some non-smart decisions to put himself in that situation in the first place?
      Huh? I already said multiple times if he was running lights and stop signs the stop was warranted.

      There is no way you didn’t see or understand that.

      Two things-

      1. running stop signs doesn’t require handcuffing? Can you admit that?

      2. The presence of a gun doesn’t require handcuffing because of the laws of Nebraska. The video available shows Crawford and the passengers followed the law by telling cops they had firearms. Can you admit this?

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        #183
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Here’s an AI Overview for you.

        Yeah, dumb as f-ck.



        “In Nebraska, openly carrying a firearm while driving recklessly can result in police detaining you at gunpoint, especially if an officer observes the weapon. Even if you are legally permitted to carry the firearm, the reckless driving and visible gun will be perceived as a safety risk, leading to a heightened law enforcement response.“
        AI overview? WTF. This is based on what you typed in, not the actual law in Nebraska.

        You’re doing any and everything to give the cops every benefit of the doubt.

        You still keep dodging what I asked earlier- if Crawford was running lights and stop signs, why not just say that immediately.

        That completely justifies the stop and eliminates any need for an investigation into the stop.

        The Chief hasn’t said this yet which is confusing to me and looks fishy.

        Will you acknowledge this?

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          #184


          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          AI overview? WTF. This is based on what you typed in, not the actual law in Nebraska.

          You’re doing any and everything to give the cops every benefit of the doubt.

          You still keep dodging what I asked earlier- if Crawford was running lights and stop signs, why not just say that immediately.

          That completely justifies the stop and eliminates any need for an investigation into the stop.

          The Chief hasn’t said this yet which is confusing to me and looks fishy.

          Will you acknowledge this?


          I don’t program the AI I what to say. I just asked it how law enforcement handles driving recklessly while open carrying in Nebraska.

          And of course I’m choosing to give the men in blue every benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. They deserve as much, as they have a very dangerous job.
          Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 10-02-2025, 07:27 AM.

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            #185
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Naw. Responsible gun owners don’t go running stop signs and red lights while open carrying.
            The only person saying that about running stop signs and red lights is a poster on here that said that rich and famous people do that . I would not take that seriously. Dude was just talking out of his ass.

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            • SUBZER0ED
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              #186
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              It depends on how you are treated.

              If a cop respects you as a person and de-escalates the situation, people react calmly.

              If they act like a$$holes people are not going to give them any respect.

              Cops just need to treat everyone the same until something happens where they need to act differently.
              Come on, now, everything isn't predicated on how the cops treat drivers. Some drivers are absolute dicks who hate cops and give them a hard time because they were pulled over. And some drivers are just dicks in general, just as some cops are dicks in general.

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                #187
                Originally posted by Damn Wicked

                That's exactly how you have to behave when you're pulled over by the cops. I'm white and have been pulled over MANY times here in Toronto, Canada, and throughout the province of Ontario. I've been driving a long time. Some cops are really cool and others have bad attitudes. I've had cops almost raging at me a few times for speeding just 15 kilometres over the speed limit. That's about the equivalent of 7 miles per hour. One cop was calling my minivan a "Crap Can" and a "Piece of sheeet". I'd be an idiot if I got offended and defensive at some angry ******* that could easily choose to increase the fine and add other charges. I'm always amazed at the idiots who try to argue with the cops and resist everything. They should just shut up and deescalate the situation. Even saying some fake, "Sorry officer". It's like some people would rather be right than just get through the traffic stop smoothly. Driver's need to leave their ego at home.

                Me and my brother were also pulled over in his car by a few cops about 8 years ago. A few cops flanked the car from both sides, asked us both for our ID, told us to keep our hands where they could see them and stay put. After checking our ID and scoping out my bros car, they explained that we were driving just a few blocks from a building that was a notorious drug dealing spot with gangs and ****e. The whole time we were stopped we knew not to be offended or insulted that they viewed us as su****ious. In our younger years we would always blame our having long hair (rock 'n' roll hippies) for the cops pulling us over, but then when we cut our hair short we were still getting pulled over at a very similar rate.

                People everywhere have their own biases to why the cops pull them over. The media, friends, family and threads like this one are even feeding the biases and unknowingly teaching us how to think. AND it's that thinking that is not logical or objective. Just like the political madness that has swept through America and the rest of the world (it's always been there but it's even more extreme today). Nobody is rational and thoughtful. They're all just running with a team, a political party, a race, a gender, a country. All of those iden****** are illusory if we look a little deeper.
                Damn, that stuff happens in Canada? What about the claims of being so happy-go-lucky that Canadians don't even lock their doors? I've been hoodwinked!

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Lefty0616

                  I can share my opinion on what I think about your level of consciousness as a Black man - without being afraid that you're from Baltimore. I think your levels are lacking. You take care.
                  I didn't tell you where I'm from to invoke fear. Why would you be afraid? You asked where I live, and I told you where I'm from. That information was meant to let you know that I know what means to be a Black man. Maryland is the Northern most state of the South, and racism is alive and well there. Especially when I grew up in the 60's 70's. But to perceive every adverse action against Black people as racist is as stereotypical as people of other ethnicities believing us all to be hoodlums.
                  Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 10-02-2025, 05:43 PM.

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                  • SUBZER0ED
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    You do know that reckless driving is not a traffic or moving violation in most states right? No, in fact It’s a crime. A class A or B misdemeanor. If convicted one could face upwards to six months or a year in jail for it.

                    If Bud was truly driving recklessly then he would have been arrested, given a field sobriety test and not issued a citation. They would have immediately ordered him out of his vehicle with both of his hands up and cuffed him.

                    You don’t walk up to a reckless driver’s vehicle requesting driving credentials. The reason why they didn’t arrest Crawford because he was innocent and no laws had been broken.

                    So the cops lied. They violated his rights. They even confessed that Bud did not appear to them mentally impaired or had the stench of alcohol or drugs on his breath or in his system.

                    However, we still need to see the dash cam video in order to determine whether or not he was speeding. Unlike most on here; I am still willing to give Crawford his presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
                    We definitely need all of the facts before we can make an informed judgement, Champ. Until then, all we can do is speculate.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                      Damn, that stuff happens in Canada? What about the claims of being so happy-go-lucky that Canadians don't even lock their doors? I've been hoodwinked!
                      Crime has been getting worse here, especially in the last 10 years or so. In the Toronto area (including Mississauga, Richmond Hill, Markham, Brampton, etc) there's A LOT of home invasions/ home robberies. Lots of forced entry and families being held at gunpoint and assaulted. I see this stuff regularly on the 6 O'clock News. I just did a quick Google search "Toronto home break ins" and apparently 2025 hasn't been quite as bad as 2024 for home invasions (but we still have time to catch up in 2025).

                      In recent years vehicle theft has been really bad here. If you have a nice vehicle and it's parked in your driveway over night, it could be risky. There's been quite a few cases of violence involved along with the act of stealing the vehicles too. I just did a quick Google search for "Vehicle theft Toronto area" and found that again, 2025 has been a better year than 2024 in regards to vehicle theft. I would have never guessed that, because this stuff is all over the news, all the time. Almost always the targeted neighbourhoods are the upper-middle class or the well-off. Places like Richmond Hill and Markham (both are known as "good" and affluent neighbourhoods ) rarely used to have these violent invasions and robberies but they've seemingly been targeted more and more in recent times. I've always locked my doors, even back in the 1980s. There's probably a rare few people who don't lock their doors but that's a bad tactic for anyone, anywhere in the world. I might be extremely careful and paranoid though. I don't trust anyone.

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