Who did Tyson ever beat? His resume is pretty bad.

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran
    Michael Spinks is a great win. But who else?

    Old Larry Holmes coming out of retirement? Bruno?

    Mike's record is so so thin.
    - - First Ring #1 p4per in history.

    U record is the number of soiled shorts U shat.

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    • Johnny2x2x
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      #32
      It’s not Tyson’s fault but was a weak era. It’s not like he avoided people.

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      • Toffee
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        #33
        Originally posted by TMLT87

        The point is his resume is allegedly "pretty bad" except its better than anyone in the current division, and yes that includes Usyk, who has had 8 fights at HW vs 5 opponents.
        Usyk beat fighters who were not only titlists and highly ranked at the time he fought them, he beat guys who will rank in the top 5 of the era in which he fought them. The only thing impacting Usyk's record at heavyweight is lack of quantity, but the quality is there.

        I'm not sure Tyson has a single one of those kind of wins. The Spinks win was awe inspiring but, reflecting, it's not an all time win at HW. Holmes might actually be his defining win - but he beat him outside of Holmes' era given he hadn't won a fight in 3 years.

        And his losses hurt. He didn't get caught with a fluke punch against Douglas - he got a boxing lesson. And that was his prime. Then every time he stepped up to an elite level fight, he lost.

        I won't argue his resume is 'pretty bad' at all. What he did in 86-89 and at the age he did it is enough to put him high on the list. A title winning comeback is also well regarded. His is just not in the very top tier of heavyweight resumes.

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        • Bennyleonard99
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          #34
          Tyson obliterated the division and made everyone look second and third rate, that's how good Mike was at his prime before Givens and King ruined him and he lost his fire. To try to discredit the most exciting and explosive hwt champion of all time is blasphemy.

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            #35
            Originally posted by garfios

            The guy won fair and square and I'm not excusing Mike, it is a fact, he should have done it again and he didn't, the fact of the matter is that if it wasn't Buster it would have been someone else, he was spiraling downward and nobody could have stopped that fall, mentally he was lost and the people that help him be sane and strong were there no more, only Rodney and he was a little crazy himself. Berbick, Thomas, Bone Crush, Tucker, Ferguson, Tyrell, Tubbs, Spinks, Stewart, Ruddock, Seldom, they were all capable fighters and some of them World Champs. He was and still is the youngest Heavyweight Champion and took all the belts not just one.
            Mike got flustered anytime someone hit him back
            Mr 44 to 1 understood the assignment
            Stuff a jab down the bully's throat
            follow it up with a hook/cross
            Mike's predictable movements made that easy AF
            All a person had to do is NOT be afraid and he stood half a chance.

            The only name anyone would mention from that list of names is Spinks

            Mike was the youngest because the stars aligned themselves perfectly.
            Those were some forgettable AF "champs" he beat

            100000% overrated.

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            • TMLT87
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              #36
              Originally posted by Toffee

              Usyk beat fighters who were not only titlists and highly ranked at the time he fought them, he beat guys who will rank in the top 5 of the era in which he fought them. .

              That is heavily based on the quality of the era itself more than the quality of those specific fighters though. I dont buy for one second that Fury, AJ and Dubois are any better than the best guys Tyson beat, they're just competing in a worse era and one where the UK is the main media power at HW.
              Last edited by TMLT87; 08-03-2025, 02:08 AM.

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              • garfios
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

                Mike got flustered anytime someone hit him back
                Mr 44 to 1 understood the assignment
                Stuff a jab down the bully's throat
                follow it up with a hook/cross
                Mike's predictable movements made that easy AF
                All a person had to do is NOT be afraid and he stood half a chance.

                The only name anyone would mention from that list of names is Spinks

                Mike was the youngest because the stars aligned themselves perfectly.
                Those were some forgettable AF "champs" he beat

                100000% overrated.
                That's your opinion, not everybody think the way you do, actually is the opposite. Prime Mike would have been a nightmare for the best of them, and in the era he would have fought at 200 pounds and walk through anyone at that weight, but he was in another era and he fought as a HW. Spinks was a name, he didn't offer much of a threat when they fought, Tucker, Bruno and Ruddock were bigger and hit harder than Spinks.

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                • TheProudLunatic
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by garfios

                  That's your opinion, not everybody think the way you do, actually is the opposite. Prime Mike would have been a nightmare for the best of them,
                  Holmes (after a 2 year vaca)
                  Spinks (clearly in cash-out mode)
                  Holy ( )
                  Lenny ( )

                  That's about it

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                  • Haka
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                    #39
                    Peekaboo movement looks good on camera against a heavy bag that does not hit back. It is too dependent and it is of too much of a molded style that at some point when there is real resistance and a need for a plan B it does not hold up anymore. James Tillis laid the blueprint against the primest of prime Tyson well before Buster Douglas.

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                    • Rockybigblower
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                      #40
                      He'd beat you...and thats enough said.

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