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  • hugh grant
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    #291
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn


    Lmfao. You think Manny is greater than Rjj and Calzaghe. That means Floyd had the best win in beating Manny.

    Now you’re pretending beating Manny means nothing. r.
    Yes, pac is greater than floyd, RJJ and calzaghe I agree with you. Pac is greater than jmm, bradley or anyone who best him too.
    Beating pac when you have all the physical advantages means not much I agree with you. Pac would get all the credit, as he's 8 divisions above normal weight class, whilst you'd only get credit for beating one of the best in the division.​

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      #292


      That's just like RunnyMoney trying to get full credit for beating Marquez when you have every conceivable advantage plus welch him on the catchweight.

      What else did you need a bat

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        #293
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Yes, pac is greater than floyd, RJJ and calzaghe I agree with you. Pac is greater than jmm, bradley or anyone who best him too.
        Beating pac when you have all the physical advantages means not much I agree with you. Pac would get all the credit, as he's 8 divisions above normal weight class, whilst you'd only get credit for beating one of the best in the division.​
        I didn’t say that. Manny is surely not better than Floyd as we saw. He isn’t better than Roy. He is barely better than JMM as we saw when they fought.

        Bradley isn’t an ATG. As a reminder, he was a free agent that decided to take the easy road by signing with TR to fight Manny rather than take the harder road to fight the better boxer in Floyd, likely for more money.

        Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?

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          #294
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          I didn’t say that. Manny is surely not better than Floyd as we saw. He isn’t better than Roy. He is barely better than JMM as we saw when they fought.

          Bradley isn’t an ATG. As a reminder, he was a free agent that decided to take the easy road by signing with TR to fight Manny rather than take the harder road to fight the better boxer in Floyd, likely for more money.

          Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?
          There's all time p4p lists that certainly have Manny ranked higher than Floyd, and they most certainly don't include Marquez or Bradley anywhere near the discussion

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            #295
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            I didn’t say that. Manny is surely not better than Floyd as we saw. He isn’t better than Roy. He is barely better than JMM as we saw when they fought.


            Yes, I agree with you Pac s resume is much better than.Floyd's or jmms so is greater. Plus all common opponents with pac and floyd have agreed.

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              #296
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              Yes, I agree with you Pac s resume is much better than.Floyd's or jmms so is greater. Plus all common opponents with pac and floyd have agreed.
              I didn’t say that either. Floyd has the best win and the 2nd best win- Manny and Canelo- when comparing resumes with Manny.

              Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list

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                #297
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                I didn’t say that either. Floyd has the best win and the 2nd best win- Manny and Canelo- when comparing resumes with Manny.
                Yes, I agree that pac is greater than everyone who beat him. Just like Ali is greater than everyone who beat him. I'm sure joe Louis is greater than marciano too, who best him. I suspect hopkins is greater than calzaghe too, which upsets me a bit, I like calzaghe
                Last edited by hugh grant; 07-25-2025, 02:14 PM.

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                  #298
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  Yes, I agree that pac is greater than everyone who beat him. Just like Ali is greater than everyone who beat him. I'm sure joe Louis is greater than marciano too, who best him. I suspect hopkins is greater than calzaghe too, which upsets me a bit, I like calzaghe
                  He is not greater than Floyd. Floyd is ranked higher, sold more, and oh yeah beat him.

                  Manny moved up more because he was lighter.

                  Ali is better than all the guys he lost to. Manny isn’t Ali. He isn’t greater or better than Floyd.

                  Now please answer the question-tell us why you deleted the post you made stating the boxers Floyd had to beat to be an ATG as soon as he completed the list?
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-25-2025, 02:16 PM.

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                    #299
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    Yes, I agree that pac is greater than everyone who beat him. Just like Ali is greater than everyone who beat him. I'm sure joe Louis is greater than marciano too, who best him. I suspect hopkins is greater than calzaghe too, which upsets me a bit, I like calzaghe
                    I think Bernard fought better comp than Joe

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                      #300
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      He is not greater than Floyd. Floyd is ranked higher,

                      ?
                      By who and don't just say some legit boxing historians because that is bogus

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