Why do people still challenge AJ more than Wilder ?

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  • TMLT87
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    Wilder is coming off knockouts and has lost his aura of invincibility. With that he lost his drawing power.

    AJ is coming off knockout losses but people in the UK still believe the hype.

    Good for them I guess?
    Wilder never had any real drawing power or an aura of invincibility to begin with. People didnt give a **** even when he was going on for years and years undefeated.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "believe the hype" regarding AJ. You dont have to be an AJ fanboy or think hes going to win to want to watch fights like AJ/Usyk and AJ/Dubois do you? those are good fights and absolutely worthy of a stadium crowd and mainstream attention. I wish it was more commonplace to see shows on that scale in other countries too. Not sure why anyone would hate on it.

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    • TMLT87
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      #12
      Seriously the ****ing things that get censored on here now.


      Main$tre@m gets censored, gr@pe$ gets censored because the automated censor thing thinks i'm talking about ****ing r@pe. ****ing hell its dumb.

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      • ELPacman
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        #13
        Probably just because of the money involved in the UK and that most of the call outs or opponents AJ were facing were in the UK.

        Wilder doesn't have as much money involved and in the past, the idea of just facing him was frightening even to collect the check. It was like you knew you would get paid decent (at Wilder's peak of popularity), but you also knew you might get ktfo at any moment in the fight and was it worth it?

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        • Coverdale
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          #14
          Originally posted by TMLT87

          Wilder never had any real drawing power or an aura of invincibility to begin with. People didnt give a **** even when he was going on for years and years undefeated.

          I'm not sure what you mean by "believe the hype" regarding AJ. You dont have to be an AJ fanboy or think hes going to win to want to watch fights like AJ/Usyk and AJ/Dubois do you? those are good fights and absolutely worthy of a stadium crowd and main****** attention. I wish it was more commonplace to see shows on that scale in other countries too. Not sure why anyone would hate on it.
          ShoulderRoll still lives vicariously through Mayweather and Willow The Wisp, as much as he likes to pretend to academic detachment and rigour, has a weird obsession with AJ to the point he thinks he should have fought Miller because PEDs don't matter.

          Any superiority complex either has is laughably off base.

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          • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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            #15
            Money.

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            • JakeTheBoxer
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              #16
              Joshua has always been much better and more proven fighter than Wilder.

              His best wins are Klitschko, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz.

              Wilder lost to every single good fighter he fought. His best win is ancient Ortiz and he looked like a s.hit in that fight.

              Losing to Fury 3 times doesn`t make you being N.2. in the world.

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                #17
                Originally posted by TMLT87

                Wilder never had any real drawing power or an aura of invincibility to begin with. People didnt give a **** even when he was going on for years and years undefeated.

                I'm not sure what you mean by "believe the hype" regarding AJ. You dont have to be an AJ fanboy or think hes going to win to want to watch fights like AJ/Usyk and AJ/Dubois do you? those are good fights and absolutely worthy of a stadium crowd and main****** attention. I wish it was more commonplace to see shows on that scale in other countries too. Not sure why anyone would hate on it.
                People didn’t give a ****?

                He was enough of a draw that when AJ demanded $50 million to fight him, Team Wilder sent over an offer for $50 million plus a 50% share of the event revenue. Joshua then didn’t take it and ran away.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Coverdale

                  ShoulderRoll still lives vicariously through Mayweather and Willow The Wisp, as much as he likes to pretend to academic detachment and rigour, has a weird obsession with AJ to the point he thinks he should have fought Miller because PEDs don't matter.

                  Any superiority complex either has is laughably off base.


                  How do I live vicariously through Mayweather?

                  I hardly mention him at all.

                  You Brits must still feel some kind of way about him for you to even go there, though.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WillieWild114
                    Wilder has gotten beaten down 2 times in a row and yet no one calls him out to Box. AJ only lost once recently and you got guys like Jake Paul and other contenders calling him out to Box ? I don’t understand why AJ is more skilled and may not punch as hard as Wilder but his power isn’t far. Why is AJ challenged more ?
                    That's a simple question. It's because AJ is the much bigger box office draw over in the U.K. Boxing is a hotspot and bursting at the seems with excitement over the sport in that part of the world.

                    In the U.S. It's not. Wilder couldn't draw flies to shit since boxing is no longer a mainstream anymore. Likewise, by Summer's end. They would have effectively and successfully taken boxing completely off of television stateside.

                    It's because the sport is no longer popular among casuals. ​Fans have just totally tuned the fuck out of the sport of boxing and has subsequently moved to the MMA for their favorite combat sport entertainment.​

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TMLT87

                      Wilder never had any real drawing power or an aura of invincibility to begin with. People didnt give a **** even when he was going on for years and years undefeated.

                      I'm not sure what you mean by "believe the hype" regarding AJ. You dont have to be an AJ fanboy or think hes going to win to want to watch fights like AJ/Usyk and AJ/Dubois do you? those are good fights and absolutely worthy of a stadium crowd and main****** attention. I wish it was more commonplace to see shows on that scale in other countries too. Not sure why anyone would hate on it.
                      Joshua fought good, exciting fights, against good, exciting fighters. Sure, he's lost some fights, but those losses were not against bums, and two were vs arguably one of the ATGs of this era. People who shit on AJ, DKSAB.

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