Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez won't make the same mistakes in Emanuel Navarrete rematch

[Sherman56]

Valdez has always fought emotional, which in turn makes him load up on every shot and become slow and predictable. It’s been years now since in every one of his fights you can hear Reynoso, and even Canelo, telling him to calm down in between rounds. I don’t think he’s going to be able to fix that. geometry dash subzero

I agree. To be successful in his fights he needs to improve every shot and calm down better with his emotions.

[Damn Wicked]

Valdez is right, he fought extremely ******ly in the first fight with Navarrette. It's hard to imagine fight more foolishly than he did. He must have lost a lot of brain cells in that fight and also in the fight with that hard punching Australian guy.

[Elheath]

Ironically Navarrete hasn't look good the past year since his first Valdez fight, where he got a gift draw against Conceicao followed by a loss against Berinchyk fighting for the vacant 135 WBO belt. Lets see if he can get back in the win column with this rematch.

[Malvado]

Valdez has always fought emotional, which in turn makes him load up on every shot and become slow and predictable. It’s been years now since in every one of his fights you can hear Reynoso, and even Canelo, telling him to calm down in between rounds. I don’t think he’s going to be able to fix that.

Honestly think Oscar Valdez performed offensively and had better stamina conditioning under Manny Robles than Eddie Reynoso.

Now he has a limited punch selection/variation as Reynoso made Valdez onto a counter puncher fighting in the backfoot and mostly loading on his shots. He had developed his skills as a pressure fighter where he set up openings/opportunities while he was getting busy and wearing down his opponent.

Just a bad strategy to change his style altogether where he could had just refined what he knew and fixed his deficiencies.

Think that at least Eddie's refined Valdez's defense, don't think he has technically been knocked down since he joined with Canelo Team, including his bout with Stevenson, where personally I saw him as tripping to the ropes, where Stevenson pushed him with a punch while he was pulling himself up in unstable position.

Whereas under Robles he did get caught Adam Lopez and Genesis Servania by in-between shots, he also got his jaw broken by Scott Quigg.

Similar issues with Ryan Garcia and Andy Ruiz, under Reynoso they mostly fought in the backfoot, where more careful with their shots and threw loaded punches.

Feel like it took away what made Ruiz stand out which was his high work rate at heavyweight with his fast hanspeed and punch combinations on the inside as the shorter fighter, now he throws a few telegraphed punches at mid range. The version that fought Ortiz and Arreola would get stopped by Anthony Joshua.

Think it will benefit Teofimo Lopez to join the team, but man Eddie is a one track mind trainer. He also takes wide breaks whenever Canelo isn't in fight camp.

[Tatabanya]

My thinking exactly
The fight will end the same way imo
To many things for Valdez to change or should I say fix

Still, Navarrete has been looking like shìt in recent times...

[JonDP]

Honestly think Oscar Valdez performed offensively and had better stamina conditioning under Manny Robles than Eddie Reynoso.

Now he has a limited punch selection/variation as Reynoso made Valdez onto a counter puncher fighting in the backfoot and mostly loading on his shots. He had developed his skills as a pressure fighter where he set up openings/opportunities while he was getting busy and wearing down his opponent.

Just a bad strategy to change his style altogether where he could had just refined what he knew and fixed his deficiencies.

Think that at least Eddie's refined Valdez's defense, don't think he has technically been knocked down since he joined with Canelo Team, including his bout with Stevenson, where personally I saw him as tripping to the ropes, where Stevenson pushed him with a punch while he was pulling himself up in unstable position.

Whereas under Robles he did get caught Adam Lopez and Genesis Servania by in-between shots, he also got his jaw broken by Scott Quigg.

Similar issues with Ryan Garcia and Andy Ruiz, under Reynoso they mostly fought in the backfoot, where more careful with their shots and threw loaded punches.

Feel like it took away what made Ruiz stand out which was his high work rate at heavyweight with his fast hanspeed and punch combinations on the inside as the shorter fighter, now he throws a few telegraphed punches at mid range. The version that fought Ortiz and Arreola would get stopped by Anthony Joshua.

Think it will benefit Teofimo Lopez to join the team, but man Eddie is a one track mind trainer. He also takes wide breaks whenever Canelo isn't in fight camp.

Gotta agree with that. I think Reynoso basically wants to turn every fighter in his keep into a version of Canelo instead of finding ways to refine their own style. I don’t think of him as being a capable enough trainer to be able to do that.

[PBR Streetgang]

Maybe I'm in the minority on this one, but I came away from the first fight not thinking we needed to see the rematch. I know the ESPN commentators were screaming that I just witnessed a "Mexican classic" but that just felt like them reading off a pre-arranged script.

I thought Valdez gave a spirited effort in a fight he clearly lost. It looked like same old Valdez in against same old Navarrete. Who knows, maybe El Vacquero is more shopworn than Valdez at this point that it changes the outcome.

[trippleupper]

The rematch is the mistake

[tomhawq]

Valdez only has to learn from Conciecao's Nava fight. Navarette got very long arms and he's effective when he's able to control the distance. Therefore, that's where Valdez needs work in, deny Nava the distance he needs to launch his wide looping shots.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Valdez only has to learn from Conciecao's Nava fight. Navarette got very long arms and he's effective when he's able to control the distance. Therefore, that's where Valdez needs work in, deny Nava the distance he needs to launch his wide looping shots.

He tried that in the first fight and couldn't get in. A lot of that was that he was trying to get in via high guard and head movement. I think he'll do better jabbing his way in and using the occasional split entry, but the high guard bait and counter isn't as effective when you're at a big, in this case 6", reach disadvantage. He's actually got shorter reach than Inoue. So he can hand fight his way in instead and use long guard traffic to forestall and deflect shots. He won't though, because that's not his style.