Comments Thread For: Artur Beterbiev unifies light heavyweight titles after brilliant fight with Dmitry Bivol

[Southermost]

Any fan with the capacity for rational thought understands that, once again, the problem with boxing isn't the judges, but rather the inane scoring system which poses four competing scoring criteria. These scoring criteria are not officially prioritized, so this allows scorers to pick and choose which criterion they want to emphasize and give primacy to while deprioritizing or outright dismissing the other criteria. Any thinking fan (even a rank noob) can understand how this would be problematic to fair and reasonable scoring. Among many obvious problems, the 4-criteria judging system allows scorers to adapt the scoring to their favorite fighter's style. If their fighter is a big puncher they would focus on heavy landed shots (as they should), but if their fighter is Jamaine Ortiz then they would likely prioritize the scoring of defense or ring generalship (the dumbest, vaguest criteria of all).

No other competitive sport does what boxing does. Imagine if basketball had a scoring system with four competing scoring criteria (points scored, defense, aggressiveness and floor management (aka ring generalship)? We could see winning teams who actually score less points win a world championship because they played like the Globetrotters. That would be ridiculous, but that's precisely what happens with boxing. Fix the dumb scoring system. The one and only scoring criteria that matters is Clean, Hard Punching. Everything else is incidental to this.

Bonus Suggestions: 1. Promote scoring even rounds for even rounds, instead of forcing a 10-9 round (what a concept) 2. Get rid of the arbitrary 10-pt must system.

Bivol face won't lie he knows Bet was a better man I think was too much respect for the old man.

[Poopdick]

I had it a draw. But what a fight ... fights like that should not even be scored and declare both winners

lol boxing will be that way soon enough I'm sure

[Poopdick]

I think that it's because people see everything in black and white while missing the gray. People want to be right , for some it's almost a need. It was a close fight and a reasonable argument could be made for either guy deserving the nod in my opinion. I was pulling for Beterbiev but I don't think that it's at all unreasonable to believe that Bivol won. I didn't score it while watching it , but at the end I really wasn't expecting Artur to get the decision.

yeah I didn't score it live either but also surprised Betterbiev got it. I honestly was thinking it was gonna be a draw. seemed like Bivol pulled out atleast 7 better rds than Betterbiev. no way Bivol only won 4 rds lol. these are 2 best guys in the LHW division for certain. nobody beats these 2. Betterbiev is a freak lol. he just keeps coming. scary mf'r.

[Poopdick]

Betes wasn't trying to knock him out. Like Canelo v Munguia. Win, but don't embarrassing your countryman.

yes he was.

[Poopdick]

Oooooooo you disloyal mothafuqers!!!! Looks like you been having fun at my expense you son of a bishes!! LOL Nah I didn't watch the fight because I just couldnt get up for two Ruskies fighting in Saudi at 6pm! My bad!!!

fooking casual lol.

[Poopdick]

I didn't see the fight but I'm glad out the outcome. Now hopefully Artur will do the right thing and move up to cruiser and free up the belts so the Davids and the other LHWs can go at it. Also Canelo should move up to 175 and let Jermall, Caleb, Berlanga, Munguia, Andrade and all the other 168s go at it!

lol let the b and c class fighters get one them trinkets huh. disgusting child. disgusting. there's a rematch and the top 2 LHW in world will once again go at it. those other guys need keep fighting the low level competition as always. weird you want the top guys to go ahead and leave so others can have a chance lol. crazy idea of a champion you have

[Elastic Recoilz]

Beterbiev won the fight by being the aggressor throughout. Bivol won 3 rounds and drew 1, 2 at best. Bivol only survived the 12 by pushing Beterbiev down at every opportunity. Beterbiev is an incredible fighter and his relentless pressure won the fight. I thought 116-112 was about right.

I hope Beterbiev moves up to Cruiser. It would be interesting to see if his power would carry the same weight. Bivol did what no other man has been able to do in taking Beterbiev the distance, he is a very good fighter in his own right and if he stays at the weight, he come again.

I'd love to see Beterbiev destroy Clenelo but Clenelo would be too chicken to take that fight. I think Beterbiev beats Billam-Smith and Zurdo. Opetia would be some fight.

I believe it would. I believe Beterbiev's power would carry all the way up to heavyweight, he's a naturally heavy puncher; he throws the type of of shots which accumulatively break opponents down & his head shots are concussive in nature. I genuinely believe Beterbiev would hurt various current heavyweights for eg the likes of Anderson, Chisora, wallin, Franklin, Pulev, Luis Ortiz etc

[archiemoore1]

So, in other words, you have no source for your claim and nothing is "documented". Just as I thought.

This isn't school and it isn't court, either. Who are you, the boxingscene prosecutor? The burden isn't on me to educate you. The burden is on your dumb ass to go read and find out for yourself. You're the one that seems thirsty to know who Bivol prays to. Why are you so fixated on that man's religion ?? Do you wanna know how much man- juice is in his balls too, or how they taste? You're sounding real shaky right now

[champion4ever]

It wasn't a ESPN/Top Rank card. It was a Matchroom card in Saudi Arabia first of all.


and you're entire argument was "Yeah Bivol shoe shined to steal rounds, but he never got stopped" Bivol gave away the last 3 rounds because he was broken down. Is what it is.

Go rewatch the fight again and get back at me. You are only saying this because Beterbiev is your guy.

Let’s cut to chase. Bivol won this fight and you know it but is just too afraid of admitting it.

However, if you really mean this then God help you man!

[macmike100]

I had it rounds 1&2, 8&12 for Bivol. Bivol’s problem was he would only punch in spurts. And basically in a defensive way. Whereas, Beterbiev was fully aggressive. So 116-112 was a fair decision for me.