Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Falls Below Anthony Joshua In Rankings Following Loss To Oleksandr Usyk

[Blackstarr]

Fury was in top shape, 2 fights back from sabbatical and fought an historic fight. One of his best.

Wilder was offered 80-100 million to fight AJ is a crock. Read more about it before using that crap to support your favorites.

Not trying to be cruel, but it's true that if a lie is repeated enough people will start to believe it.

Joshua has boatloads of talent, is a tried and true top heavyweight; but he was made to order for a 28 - 30 year old Wilder. And his brain trust knew it. Ruiz proved his limits.

So..are you gonna ignore this then?
https://x.com/BronzeBomber/status/13...243072?lang=en

True or are you saying that Wilder is full of s.hit too?

[Dare7]

Fury was in top shape, 2 fights back from sabbatical and fought an historic fight. One of his best.

Wilder was offered 80-100 million to fight AJ is a crock. Read more about it before using that crap to support your favorites.

Not trying to be cruel, but it's true that if a lie is repeated enough people will start to believe it.

Joshua has boatloads of talent, is a tried and true top heavyweight; but he was made to order for a 28 - 30 year old Wilder. And his brain trust knew it. Ruiz proved his limits.

Wilder clearly ducked Wladimir Klitchko (despite the fact that they had same manager), AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker back in 2017and even Potvekin ( He said he won't fight a drug cheat but he fought Ortiz coz he was old and Tyson Fury coz he thought he was weak and pillow fisted).

It is fact AJ, Match room and DAZN offered Wilder 100 million dollars and he rejected the deal spewing nonsense. He lied that he offered AJ 50 Million dollars and AJ rejected it which is laughable. My question for Wilder and his fans is where did Wilder get that kind of money and backing when he has never earn such amount himself? He was no cash cow so how could he offer what he never had? PBC don't have that kind of budget for Wilder and Wilder refused to travel outside of U.S to fight top fights.

Wilder resume is fraudulent and it is clearly revealed. When he stepped up he failed miserably. Wilder was managed in such a way with opponents who are no threats and will stand in front of him and he even has a fake win in Malik Scott his now trainer.

AJ got the top resume and fought top names in his time. He never ducked anyone. He fought the top names. Wilder stepped up and got exposed.

[champion4ever]

It’s very understandable. Like Deontay Wilder; Tyson Fury is now a ruined and washed out fighter.

He no longer has the same amount of stamina, reflexes or legs to compete at the elite level anymore. Therefore Expect him to get knocked out by Usyk in their rematch;

Unless, he postpones and delay it by pushing the date back like he always does when facing rematches.

[Willow The Wisp]

You’re a lying disgrace..why did Wilder say he turned down a fight with AJ for more money to fight Fury then on his own Twitter page? Was Wilder lying too?
https://x.com/BronzeBomber/status/13...243072?lang=en

And why did Fury announce that both he and AJ had signed contracts to fight in Saudi, before Wilder derailed those plans by suing to receive another beatdown?
https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/20...n-saudi-arabia

It’s clear you’re a clueless clown that can’t be reasoned with. Either that or you’re a shameless troll.

I am non of those derogatory things.
I am a realist, and a veteran writer, journalist and historian. I call them right. Your links are silliness and don't conflict at all with the lessons I've provided for your edification.

Don't be angry. The Wilder age is past, the Fury era is on it's last throws, and Joshua, owing to his considerable abilities and his being the youngest of the three, remains a viable contender. His carefully arranged comeback from repeated defeats in mid career is laudable.
(That means worthy of praise).


Watch him try his legacy against countryman Daniel Dubois, who has flaws of his own and is about at the same level as Josh.
Joshua needs that win. A loss would place him decidedly below that of Usyk, Fury and Wilder.

He isn't going anywhere near Zhilei Zhang, for the same reason he avoided Wilder. Because he is well managed.

[Boro]

I'm not a big fan of AJ but Fury should never have been ranked above him for only beating Wilder twice and Dillon Whyte the last 7 years. Oh a Derek Chisora for a 3rd time.

That's literally fraud Fury's best wins in recent years. Wilder got exposed brutally by Zhilei Zhang and Parker.

In the same time AJ has beaten Ruiz, Parker, Whyte, Pulev, Povetkin etc.

Why shouldn't he of he been in the most significant trilogy of the Era, arguably the most signincant fight of the era and as for Wilder being "exposed" by Zhang and Parker you could easily argue, the damage from the trilogy are the reason for that...

AJ hasn't beaten Parker since Fury came back or Whyte and he's also been beaten by Usyk and Ruiz in that same time.

Also Wilder maintained his #1 spot after both losses to Fury, Fury loses his belt to arguably the best heavyweight of this era and he's instantly below AJ in the rankings of the sanctioning body he was champion of...

The right palms have been greased that's for sure or there is clear favoritism for fighters with more melanin.

[factsarenice]

"Joshua hid from the other two"... while the other two were too busy fighting each other to consider taking a fight with Joshua, smh

That's strange, Lou Dibella was black balled for allowing the offer to be presented and according to Shelly Finkel, Wilder was offered 80 - 100 million but they instead would fight a recovering drug addict for guaranteed 4 million. But sure, you have your opinion and I respect that but I'm siding with Wilder's promoter and Lou Dibella.

Lastly, Joshua beats Wilder with relative ease and if you can't see that I guess we can agree to disagree.

[TheOneAboveAll]

Fury loses the Uysk rematch if he takes it and then retires as MAYBE the 4th best HW of his generation behind Usyk, AJ and Parker.

[Atypicalbrit]

AJ seems like the better fighter of the two today, Fury seems on the decline and AJ seems to be improving. That's just my perception.

[Blackstarr]

I am non of those derogatory things.
I am a realist, and a veteran writer, journalist and historian. I call them right. Your links are silliness and don't conflict at all with the lessons I've provided for your edification.

Don't be angry. The Wilder age is past, the Fury era is on it's last throws, and Joshua, owing to his considerable abilities and his being the youngest of the three, remains a viable contender. His carefully arranged comeback from repeated defeats in mid career is laudable.
(That means worthy of praise).


Watch him try his legacy against countryman Daniel Dubois, who has flaws of his own and is about at the same level as Josh.
Joshua needs that win. A loss would place him decidedly below that of Usyk, Fury and Wilder.

He isn't going anywhere near Zhilei Zhang, for the same reason he avoided Wilder. Because he is well managed.

So me quoting Wilder’s own words on the matter is silliness? You can deflect however much you like but either Wilder was telling the truth and you’re lying, or vice versa..it really is that simple.

Fury lost a close decision against a P4P great..he’s not going anywhere for now. Your talk about Wilder destroying him is nonsense aimed at embellishing Wilder’s impact despite his brutal defeat. Wilder can get back to KO-winning ways if he goes back to beating up the journeymen like he has done his whole career, but the Saudis are smart customers so I agree there’s no comeback for him.

The audacity for you to call AJ well managed while bending over backwards for the most protected HW champ in history is wild. You’re a realist nowhere but in your own mind, a writer of pure fiction, and if you’re a journalist/historian, then I’m the U.S. president.m

[hugh grant]

Usyk said fury was toughest opponent, so fury could be seen as no2 on that alone. But it's not exact science so fury being below Josh is ok.
It won't matter if Fury can win rematch