Was Floyd Mayweather Jr. clean (PEDs'free) during his era?

[elfag]

i dont get how so many sports fans are delusional to think that any of the top athletes are "clean"

its pure delusion. All the elite athletes in all sports are on PEDs

[Roadblock]

i dont get how so many sports fans are delusional to think that any of the top athletes are "clean"

its pure delusion. All the elite athletes in all sports are on PEDs

I agree although I dont think all the top guys are on illegal ones, I seen with animals where you could use whatever you like and the difference was not that much when an elite dog was on gear or not and I never seen a real good one that was good because of gear, there were downsides and some dogs were worse on gear, I think a lot of people think PEDS is a silver bullet and they are not really.

[TMLT87]

Virtually nobody was or is clean. Millions of dollars are on the line in these fights. Of course the overwhelming majority will take every advantage they can get.

[Roadblock]

Virtually nobody was or is clean. Millions of dollars are on the line in these fights. Of course the overwhelming majority will take every advantage they can get.

You may be right, but then there are million dollars stacks sitting in banks just need a balaclava, why are they not overrun with robberies, the consequences, a bit out there I know but you see my meaning, there is a part of boxing that says you pop hot and your public image is going to be hit real hard and Im sure some megastars with long careers dont want that on their legacy which is why I say not all are dirty, specifically meaning totally banned PEDS, outside of that there would be a load of legal stacks and regimes that are Peds, thats where I think Snack is, he is using his knowledge of Illegal Peds to create clean Peds which is a science in itself, you don't have to cheat to win good, the world has such a sinister attitude today, everybody is a cheat depending on what side of the fence youre on, me I sit in the middle and weigh up the angles so I get shot from both sides lol.

[IronDanHamza]

I agree although I dont think all the top guys are on illegal ones, I seen with animals where you could use whatever you like and the difference was not that much when an elite dog was on gear or not and I never seen a real good one that was good because of gear, there were downsides and some dogs were worse on gear, I think a lot of people think PEDS is a silver bullet and they are not really.

The difference is quite drastic I would say. Coming from someone who has used every PED there is.

But that comes down to genetic potential.

[Roadblock]

The difference is quite drastic I would say. Coming from someone who has used every PED there is.

But that comes down to genetic potential.

For some I think your right, there is no black and white in these kinds of things it depends on the level of athlete , the guys natural abilities etc and what is the event because in fighting lots of peds make them run hot, thats why I like to compare this stuff with animals as there is no placebo effect at all, zero, its a more accurate model, to say how its working in boxing you got to actually box, gains made doing weights and other sports etc are not the same as a 12 round championship fight at weight because of the endurance and taking shots.

Another angle could be IF everybody is using illegal Peds which is the consensus in here, then it must mean loads of guys are beating testing like 95% and, and it also would mean that 50% of guys on these Peds are losing, I dont like throwing blankets over things, ALL is a dangerous word.

[jqSide]

There's a theory I've seen on Youtube years ago that he retired early (then came back) because he felt that he's being scrutinized and PED testers are closing in on him. He got scared of getting proven a cheat. Don't know the story of his association with USADA though when he came back.

Interesting theory. He probably made special arrangements with USADA before ending his retirement. Hmm...

[djtmal]

Thats like asking if Iron Dan and Big Dunn are Floyd Boys.

You should already know the answer to that one.

[billeau2]

Depending on the rankings you looked at Cotto or Margorito were numbers 1 or 2. Both wanted Floyd. Dela Hoya wanted a rematch badly. Any WW of note at the time would be asked, if they wanted Floyd. Ie Paul Williams.
Floyd dipped before he was forced. It's really plain to see. You just being difficult. LOL.

Floyd had no reason to fight Margarito. ****** fight to take. Then you talking about rematches, so guys he already beat. You really think that is such a murderous role of fighters?

Paul Williams is the one exception I will grant you that would have been a fight to take if a fighter wanted to continue. But again, it doesn't mean he had to take that fight or that he couldn't find another opponent.

Your best evidence is two fighters he beat and a fighter that was a career shortening fight with no benefit... Any elite boxer puncher would handle Margarito and this has been proven subsequently. Floyd was smart not to take that fight. Floyd could have easily avoided williams. He did! They never stopped him from fighting.

[brettWall]

There's a theory I've seen on Youtube years ago that he retired early (then came back) because he felt that he's being scrutinized and PED testers are closing in on him. He got scared of getting proven a cheat. Don't know the story of his association with USADA though when he came back.

Why did he retire? I have yet to see a real answer to this. He was still young to announce retirement.