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  • #61
    Originally posted by theface07 View Post

    Exactly, because he's a better boxer than both of them with better footwork, timing, reflexes, accuracy, etc. That's why I said Usyk outboxed Fury.
    Furthermore, Fury never really tried to pressure Usyk a la Kronk style. Whether he never had the opportunity against Usyk or his plan was to use his height and reach and stay on the outside, it never happened in the first fight.
    I was also surprised he didn't try to lean and hold more than he did to weigh Usyk down and sap some of his energy. If Fury has a chance in the rematch, he needs to manhandle Usyk, not let him establish his rhythm. Fury isn't getting any younger or faster and if the fight does happen in December, what kind of shape will he be in?

    fury hit usyk with the same uppercut he KOed Whyte with. Usyk didn’t even buckle


    there’s some GGG level titanium behind his defensive construct



    fury’s clinch game has been figured out. Usyk legit controlled and broke clinch.
    Last edited by HeadShots; 05-29-2024, 02:03 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by sidefx996 View Post

      What exactly was "embarrassing" about it besides maybe the silly clowning for the crowd? He got caught and had one bad round or otherwise he probably would have won. He showed huge heart as always, hurt Usyk several times and comfortably controlled a good portion of the fight. He's earned almost a quarter of a billion dollars fighting and is a two-time World Champion who has lost "one" very close fight to certainly one of the greatest fighters who's come along in a long time.
      Embarrassing for Fury was that he had talked smack of Usyk right from his wins vs AJ through the build up of their clash. He called him a middleweight who he was going to destroy instead he was the one who was rag-dolled in the ring before the whole world.

      Fuy wasn't just caught by a lucky punch but was worked into that position where he was whooped with a right-left combo. And Usyk made him gassed. Honestly, I don't which fight you were watching. Prior the 9th round he had only won 3 rounds 4, 5 and 6. Over 12 rounds he won 4 rounds at most if you give him round 12.

      You Fury fans obviously believe that showboating earned him points, they didn't. So, the fight was far from being close. It's 8-4 for Usyk. The only thing that can be said, is that without the 9th round beat up the judges would have robbed Usyk.
      Last edited by Boxviewer; 05-29-2024, 02:21 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
        I think Fury will absolutely destroy Usyk in the rematch. One thing about Fury is that he has always demonstrated an impressive ability to adapt in rematches. After being taken the distance with Chisora he heavily switch-hitted in the rematch & spent about 60% of it in southpaw stance which led to a KO. After drawing with wilder (and very nearly getting knocked out) he ditched boxing in favour of aggressive front foot pressure in the rematch which again led to a KO. Granted Usyk is an incredible fighter with a sky high IQ but Fury will probably reflect on the moments where he hurt him and should be able to strategize a game plan where he can use his size effectively to fight with evil intent.
        The only challenging rematch Fury has had was vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder. He ran from the Wlad rematch. So, what are talking about?

        If anyone is going to get his ass whooped it's going to be Fury, again. Usyk simply has more tricks, a better engine and better legs than him.

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        • #64
          Fury needs to get rid of Sugar Hill and give full reign in the corner, and follow the advice to the letter of Coach John Fury, fighting man. Nash out

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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            Only the naysayers that believed Fury was never going to fight Usyk. Now all we hear is crickets until you came on board.
            So as I was saying, the chances of the rematch happening on that date even though stated by 'his excellency', are slim to none.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by theface07 View Post

              I gave Fury 2 of the first four as well as 5, 6 and 7. After that I think I had one draw round and the rest for Usyk. It was a close fight but Usyk gets the extra point in round 9 and did more damage overall and landed more punches. He wins by one or two rounds or at the closest 6 to 6 which still gives him the win with the KD in the 9th.
              Ok, I thought Rds 1-3 were as clean as can be for Usyk. Like the broadcast team, I sense that Fury gets a bit too much credit from many fans for very little work he does round to round. It seems to be that if Fury lands two punches, people give him the round. If he lands three, he's put on a masterclass. From where I sat, Fury got outworked, outmaneuvered, outboxed and outpunched in at least 9 rounds (I could concede an even Rd 7 maybe), but we all see different things.
              Last edited by TheOneAboveAll; 05-29-2024, 02:46 PM.

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              • #67
                If Fury wants to win he has to fight like he did in the middle rounds before his nose got cracked in round 8, have 6 rounds of those minimum and avoid getting starched.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Nash out View Post
                  Fury needs to get rid of Sugar Hill and give full reign in the corner, and follow the advice to the letter of Coach John Fury, fighting man. Nash out
                  In all seriousness, I think he should give the head coaching job to Andy Lee. Sugar Hill is starting to look like a bit of a poser.
                  Nash out Nash out likes this.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Haka View Post
                    If Fury wants to win he has to fight like he did in the middle rounds before his nose got cracked in round 8, have 6 rounds of those minimum and avoid getting starched.
                    I was surprised he looked as distracted as he did when his nose got smashed. Maybe that's never happened to him before. Similar to when he got badly cut vs Wallin.

                    Good chin but doesn't like blood. Usyk's tactics for the rematch? Make him bleed. That'll do.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                      In all seriousness, I think he should give the head coaching job to Andy Lee. Sugar Hill is starting to look like a bit of a poser.
                      It was outrageous that Andy Lee was in the corner but I swear I never heard him say a word. Fury needs to find a way of telling his dad to **** off if he wants to win the rematch.

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