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  • #41
    Originally posted by Weebler I View Post

    The only thing I'd say here is contrary to opinion, Fury was actually the boxer, and the boxer usually goes better second time out, it's arguably Fury who will know now what works and what does not.

    In saying that, I'll be picking Usyk, chiefly because he is able to land the big punch to change a bout, whereas it doesn't seem like Fury has that (save for impactful body shots).
    Well Joshua improved 2nd time out and it still wasn't good enough. The difference here is I don't see Fury being able to improve on that performance - only try a different approach.

    Also Fury is an ego guy. Now he has lost - it could be over for him. He is even now deluded that if he hadn't have played around so much he would have won. If he truly believes that and just does the same thing again he will lose again

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
      I think Fury will absolutely destroy Usyk in the rematch. One thing about Fury is that he has always demonstrated an impressive ability to adapt in rematches. After being taken the distance with Chisora he heavily switch-hitted in the rematch & spent about 60% of it in southpaw stance which led to a KO. After drawing with wilder (and very nearly getting knocked out) he ditched boxing in favour of aggressive front foot pressure in the rematch which again led to a KO. Granted Usyk is an incredible fighter with a sky high IQ but Fury will probably reflect on the moments where he hurt him and should be able to strategize a game plan where he can use his size effectively to fight with evil intent.
      You may very well be right, some people here are forgetting that Fury won some rounds convincingly and hurt Usyk. The question is if he has it in him to stick to a modified plan consistently. The third Wilder fight will be more than three years before the rematch, and after that he's weathered Ngannou and Usyk; that body is vulnerable. Usyk is no Wilder, he has a much higher boxing IQ and is much more skillful, also.
      Last edited by kahlilacp; 05-29-2024, 10:40 AM.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by GoldenBackHand View Post
        Fury won the first fight..

        I expect Fury to win the second fight via KO.
        Lol you cant be serious, Fury did not won that fight, it was close ngl but Usyk won fair n square, besides the gypsy never hurt nor wobbled Usyk ,wonder what makes you think he'll score a stoppage.

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        • #44
          Hate to say this but I suspect the rematch will be a lot more slow paced and maybe even boring compared the first one.
          Fury will be overly cautious with the fear of getting caught by Usyk again. His "kronk style" as so many of you put it wil NOT work on Usyk.

          Agression does not work against Usyk! All it does is tire you quicker.
          Chisora, AJ, and Dubois all said they would bully the smaller man. Its one thing to say you're going to do it but its completely different when you're in the ring with Usyk. He is a great counter puncher and very slick once he gets your timing down. I've rewatched the 2nd AJ fight in slow mo and its crazy how many times Usyk slips AJ's punches only to return 2-3 counters before AJ can even pulls his arms back to cover his face. Pacquio was great at this too and it makes your opponents hesitant to throw as they start to fear more of what will come back in the exchange.

          Yes, Fury caught Usyk and buzzed him a few times but he was never really in trouble. He was buzzed worse against AJ in both fights, Usyk however did hurt Fury, and hurt him worse than I've ever seen him. He would of been better off on his feet from one punch than tumbling around the ring like a pin ball from the 8 punches to the head that Usyk landed. Fury was so hurt he couldn't even lift his hands to protect his face.

          We can only hope that Usyk takes the fight to Fury again, but with more agression knowing that he can hurt him.

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          • #45
            I think it would be best for boxing if Usyk was to win again but what would be said if Fury got serious? dumped daddy & the hangers on & built on the first 7 of fight 1? All the greats faced defeat, would that mean trilogy?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by pollywog View Post
              I'll believe it when i see it...
              Isn’t that exactly what you said about their first fight?
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              • #47
                Originally posted by diplo View Post
                Anyone putting any money on this actually happening on that date? Or ever? There will be some kind of buy-out for the rematch clause surely.
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                Only the naysayers that believed Fury was never going to fight Usyk. Now all we hear is crickets until you came on board.

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                • #48
                  Yawn. Already delayed. Holding up the division again....

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
                    I like it, no excuses can be made, 7 months to prepare
                    Lots of excuses can be made. 7 months is a long time. Anything can happen between now and then. I wouldn't be surprised if Fury went right off the rails.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
                      Isn’t that exactly what you said about their first fight?
                      Don't think so...But back to the topic.

                      People think Fury could have kept up the pace of the first 6 rounds without the clowning acting as breathers, without Usyk adjusting and that in spite of being dead on his feet and saved by the ref in the 9th he could have come back to win the next 3 rounds.

                      It wasnt so much what Fury did or didnt do, it's what Usyk did that negated anything Fury tried.

                      Fury was in survival mode the whole fight. I doubt there's anything he can do different, from the insults, to the clowning, to the fückwit father being around, to gassing and getting dropped.

                      That's who he is. That's what he does. There's nothing to suggest he wont be that guy again and Usyk will do the same and beat him even more comprehensively because of it.

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