Comments Thread For: Report: Ryan Garcia Tests Positive for PED, Being Processed for Second Positive

[Poopdick]

That was Jeff Lacy’s style. He was a face first brawler who always ate and absorbed a lot of punches in his fights prior to that Joe Calzaghe fight.

He had a crowd pleasing style as opposed to Haney. who everyone say is boring because he does not like to get hit or take many risks inside of the ring.

Jeff ‘Left Hook’Lacy had been taking those type of ass whoopings for practically his entire career. His durability was his defense.

He was a pressure fighter with no defense. He had to bring ass in order to get ass.

also see Gvozdkyk. and man Lacy was a big hype job like Haney. again time will tell. but these things matter. I've spent alot of time around boxing gym and have known a few pros and really good boxers. what ppl can't grasp is these types of face breaking beatdowns and the effect it has on the psyche. if Haney faces another REAL challenger at 140 like Matias or Teo etc he WILL get beaten down again. and maybe will make the decision to not even try and get up. Just let it play out and see. I can tell you wanna believe what you wanna believe so only time will be able to show ppl

[champion4ever]

also see Gvozdkyk. and man Lacy was a big hype job like Haney. again time will tell. but these things matter. I've spent alot of time around boxing gym and have known a few pros and really good boxers. what ppl can't grasp is these types of face breaking beatdowns and the effect it has on the psyche. if Haney faces another REAL challenger at 140 like Matias or Teo etc he WILL get beaten down again. and maybe will make the decision to not even try and get up. Just let it play out and see. I can tell you wanna believe what you wanna believe so only time will be able to show ppl

What I am attempting to convey to all of the gloom and doom prognosticators; Such as yourself about Haney’s future is that his fight with Ryan Garcia was an aberration.

He will never fight that way again because it is not his style. The only reason why he squared up against Ryan was because the two have history together.

The two have fought each other six times before in the amateurs.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=kafkod;n32250554]

Bioidentical testosterone and HGH are produced naturally in the human body. If they were banned substances then no fit, healthy athlete would ever pass a PED test. Ingesting them as a supplement, without a TUE, is illegal but the only way to test for that is by applying thresholds. There are no thresholds for banned substances. [\QUOTE]

Synthetic testerone and HGH, not what’s naturally in your body.

Syntehtic Testerone and HGH are banned substances. I can’t say it any other way.

If you inject synthetic Test or GH into your body you are injecting a banned substance.

It's not impossible. If a banned substance is found in a supplement or food the athlete has been consuming, but it isn't listed as an ingredient, they will be cleared. If the banned substance is an ingredient of medication they are taking for a health issue, they may be cleared, which is what happened with Luis Ortiz and his blood pressure tablets.

They can also be cleared if test results are more consistent with accidental contamination than deliberate cheating, which is what happened twice with Dillian Whyte.

Povetkin was cleared of Meldonium abuse because that stuff stays in the system for a long time and it had only just gone on the banned list when he got popped for it.

It is quite literally impossible. It is impossible to demonstrably prove because you would need to provide the exact source that taken from the exact sample. Which is impossible.

The fact someone gets cleared doesn’t change that,it just further displays how broken the system is.

[champion4ever]

also see Gvozdkyk. and man Lacy was a big hype job like Haney. again time will tell. but these things matter. I've spent alot of time around boxing gym and have known a few pros and really good boxers. what ppl can't grasp is these types of face breaking beatdowns and the effect it has on the psyche. if Haney faces another REAL challenger at 140 like Matias or Teo etc he WILL get beaten down again. and maybe will make the decision to not even try and get up. Just let it play out and see. I can tell you wanna believe what you wanna believe so only time will be able to show ppl

Haney’s psyche should be just fine. He is not a broken fighter. If anything this Ioss should make him even more determined and persistent.

He is as mentally tough and strong as they come. Also, one cannot expect Haney to fight Matias and Teo like he did Ryan Garcia

Devin won’t allow them to hit him like Ryan Garcia did; Because his team believed that they could have knocked Ryan out. They did not respect his power at all.

[kafkod]

What I am attempting to convey to all of the gloom and doom prognosticators; Such as yourself about Haney’s future is that his fight with Ryan Garcia was an aberration.

He will never fight that way again because it is not his style. The only reason why he squared up against Ryan was because the two have history together.

The two have fought each other six times before in the amateurs.

I think that's true. He let Ryan get in his head and wind him up, which probably wouldn't have happened if he'd had a calm level headed trainer, instead of his hot headed dad.

[kafkod]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;n32250558]

Bioidentical testosterone and HGH are produced naturally in the human body. If they were banned substances then no fit, healthy athlete would ever pass a PED test. Ingesting them as a supplement, without a TUE, is illegal but the only way to test for that is by applying thresholds. There are no thresholds for banned substances. [\QUOTE]

Synthetic testerone and HGH, not what’s naturally in your body.

Syntehtic Testerone and HGH are banned substances. I can’t say it any other way.

If you inject synthetic Test or GH into your body you are injecting a banned substance.







It is quite literally impossible. It is impossible to demonstrably prove because you would need to provide the exact source that taken from the exact sample. Which is impossible.

If a banned substance is found as an unlisted ingredient or contaminant in food or supplements an athlete has consuming, they will be cleared.

They have to take all reasonable precautions to avoid ingesting banned substances. Expecting them to send everything they are thinking of eating, drinking or using as a supplement to a lab to be analysed before they neck it is not reasonable.

[Poopdick]

Haney’s psyche should be just fine. He is not a broken fighter. If anything this Ioss should make him even more determined and persistent.

He is as mentally tough and strong as they come. Also, one cannot expect Haney to fight Matias and Teo like he did Ryan Garcia

Devin won’t allow them to hit him like Ryan Garcia did; Because his team believed that they could have knocked Ryan out. They did not respect his power at all.

cool. It'll unfold soon.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=kafkod;n32250577]

If a banned substance is found as an unlisted ingredient or contaminant in food or supplements an athlete has consuming, they will be cleared.

They have to take all reasonable precautions to avoid ingesting banned substances. Expecting them to send everything they are thinking of eating, drinking or using as a supplement to a lab to be analysed before they neck it is not reasonable.

Right hence why it’s impossible to demonstrably prove.

[Kuauhtce]

There’s no conspiracy here. Ryan tested positive end of story. You can’t cry that people have it out for you or that it’s fake news because you got caught. If you’re not going to accept the results then what’s the point of testing?

[kafkod]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;n32250686]

Right hence why it’s impossible to demonstrably prove.

Wrongly listed ingredients and contamination can both be demonstrably proved. Sometimes, circumstancial evidence can be so strong the examiners decide that demonstrable proof isn't necessary.