Comments Thread For: Report: Ryan Garcia Tests Positive for PED, Being Processed for Second Positive

[Poopdick]

Haney’s psyche should be just fine. He is not a broken fighter. If anything this Ioss should make him even more determined and persistent.

He is as mentally tough and strong as they come. Also, one cannot expect Haney to fight Matias and Teo like he did Ryan Garcia

Devin won’t allow them to hit him like Ryan Garcia did; Because his team believed that they could have knocked Ryan out. They did not respect his power at all.

cool. It'll unfold soon.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=kafkod;n32250577]

If a banned substance is found as an unlisted ingredient or contaminant in food or supplements an athlete has consuming, they will be cleared.

They have to take all reasonable precautions to avoid ingesting banned substances. Expecting them to send everything they are thinking of eating, drinking or using as a supplement to a lab to be analysed before they neck it is not reasonable.

Right hence why it’s impossible to demonstrably prove.

[Kuauhtce]

There’s no conspiracy here. Ryan tested positive end of story. You can’t cry that people have it out for you or that it’s fake news because you got caught. If you’re not going to accept the results then what’s the point of testing?

[kafkod]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;n32250686]

Right hence why it’s impossible to demonstrably prove.

Wrongly listed ingredients and contamination can both be demonstrably proved. Sometimes, circumstancial evidence can be so strong the examiners decide that demonstrable proof isn't necessary.

[IronDanHamza]

[QUOTE=kafkod;n32250848]

Wrongly listed ingredients and contamination can both be demonstrably proved. Sometimes, circumstancial evidence can be so strong the examiners decide that demonstrable proof isn't necessary.

Not for the specific blood sample that failed it can’t.

[kafkod]

Not for the specific blood sample that failed it can’t.

Ok. The kind of demonstrable proof that you seem to be talking about, which would require time machines and human beings tiny enough to pass through the needle of a syringe while wearing microscopic scuba diving gear so they don't drown in blood samples, is not a realistic proposition.

[IronDanHamza]

Ok. The kind of demonstrable proof that you seem to be talking about, which would require time machines and human beings tiny enough to pass through the needle of a syringe while wearing microscopic scuba diving gear so they don't drown in blood samples, is not a realistic proposition.

Precisely.

Hence why it’s impossible to demonstrably prove.

[kafkod]

Precisely.

Hence why it’s impossible to demonstrably prove.

And also why it isn't necessary to demonstrably prove something to that degree in order to be cleared of cheating.

The testing teams and the athletes being tested are all fallible human beings who sometimes make mistakes. Any system which doesn't allow for basic human fallibility is unfair.

[tokon]

"Contaminated samples/supplements" coming in five . . . four . . . .three . . . . two . . . .

"Garcia has professed his innocence multiple times on X and Instagram, floating a theory that an over-the-counter supplement he ingested was possibly tainted."

Wow! Surprise, surprise.

[IronDanHamza]

And also why it isn't necessary to demonstrably prove something to that degree in order to be cleared of cheating.

The testing teams and the athletes being tested are all fallible human beings who sometimes make mistakes. Any system which doesn't allow for basic human fallibility is unfair.

If PEDs are in to your system that is entirely your fault. There is no excuse for it, even if the person generously wasn’t trying to cheat.

Of course it is. If you can’t demonstrably prove it, which we’ve established you can’t, then the whole process is irrelevant.