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Roach Worried About Miguel Cotto's "Dirty Tactics"
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Originally posted by rao007 View PostAs I recall, Cotto himself said during the NY conference (which could be found on youtube) that weight will NOT be an issue. Again, Cotto signed the contract, and in another interview he said he felt confident of winning as soon as he signed it. Hmmmmmm..
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Originally posted by AssasinKing View PostSince when were deliberate fouls allowed...
He just doesnt want pac getting low blowed 5 times lol
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostDon't be daft. The underdog often wins. Just because he may win isn't a reason why he shouldn't go into the fight as the underdog.
They both have advantages. Pacquiao has blinding speed, very unpredictable movement, and the footwork to move in and out of range before the opponent can get set. Cotto has a weight advantage (but not a huge one, they're only separated by one weight division now); a superb hook, excellent jab, great counter-punching ability, and very good timing. Both have superb accuracy and good power. They're more or less the same height as each other.
IMO, it's a pick 'em fight. The analysts who favour Pacquiao mostly do so because think that Cotto isn't the same fighter since the Margarito fight. They could be wrong, but you can't say that they're definitely wrong until we've seen him against Pacquiao.
Also, many of them are basing their prediction partly on his performance against Clottey, but there I do agree that it's irrational to do so, because almost no one could perform impressively if they were blind in one eye for 9 out of 12 rounds.
In any case, very few analysts have made a prediction yet. The betting odds favour Pacquiao, but betting odds are set by the punters, not by experts. We'll see what the experts predict closer to the fight. My guess is that most of the experts will agree that it's a pick 'em fight.
As you commented, no-one should use the Clottey fight to prognosticate what will happen on Nov. 14, and by doing so, we should base the possible advantages based on Cotto's body of work. He's been able to nuetralize speedy fighters in Mosley and Zab Judah with consistent pressure, strength, and timing.
Pundits may not have given their preidctions but it's quite obvious that on paper--Cotto has the advantages against Pacquiao.
In my opinion, Pacquiao is the underdog here.
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What an ass clown Roachclips is turning out to be. Oh!!! No low blows!! Oh!!! no Joe Cortez!!! OHHHHH if Manny loses I just don't know what I'm going to do!!!
Somebody needs to shoot his ass up with some Restoril, he is beginning to get very annoying.
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Man i want pacman to get ktfo so bad! That way all the hype simmers down
Man i have never wanted someone to get knocked out so bad like the way i want pacman to get ko. Freddie roach is just that a fugin roach. Forgeting the cotto fight i want to see manny fight marquez again. The 2nd fight marquez won clearly. Freddie shut up and put manny againts the best at 140lbs. That way there are no excuses.
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Originally posted by periks19 View PostI don't know about lowblows but I do know about headbutts. He did it to JMM on the second a few times until he caught him with a good one and opened the cut on his head. That **** looks so intentional as he was getting frustrated after being tattoed by JMM but of course he is pacman and he doesn't gets criticize for it. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to headbutt cotto when he gets in trouble. Roach needs to shut the **** up cause same **** can be said about pac.
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Originally posted by rao007 View PostTo me, if you were a boxing fan--you shouldnt' look at the Hatton, Oscar Delahoya fight as a measuring stick of how well Pacquiao will do against Cotto. That's absurd reasoning. He's still a JWW with one WW fight. Are Cotto fans trying to psych themselves up or something?
Originally posted by rao007 View PostI'll bring up the size argument that so many of his fans like to use. Cotto has only been taken to the depths by huge WW fighters in Cottey, Margarito, and to a lesser extent Mosley, which Cotto faded somewhat in the later rounds.
Mosley is very fast and very powerful, but doesn't have Pacquiao's lateral movement or footwork. And he wasn't at his best the night he fought Cotto, in the opinion of most people. And Judah is simply not in Pacquiao's class.Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-12-2009, 04:20 PM.
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