How many roid cycles has Fury done since the Ngannou fight?

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He said this. In typical Fury fashion he lacks the emotional maturity to simply take responsibility for his own behaviour. The reason the video was captured this way is that he obviously requested iFL take it down so the original is no longer available.

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There's literally nothing objective about defending a guy who's popped positive twice and saying that being su****ious of him is identical to being less su****ious of the guy who's enrolled in VADA for every fight and never had a positive test.

Positive test means he took PEDs. Period. You can't test positive without PEDs in your body. And he also never got cleared. He got suspended for 2 years. If you want to be credulous, that's on you, but you have NO ROOM to be talking about objectivity. I was a Fury fan once but you know the saying... Fool me once, shame on you. At this point, you're getting fooled for the umpteenth time and you still aren't su****ious? You know the rest.

This post proves me you are absolutely clueless about what nandrolone is and how it works, how long does it stay in your body, how many times before and after the Wlad fight Fury was tested and when he was negative. So you absolutely have nothing to backup any objectivity, you need to simplify it to "Fury fan" and "anti-fan". So be it.

By the way - the discussion is if he will get tested and give positive result. You talk like he is already busted with PEDs, but hey - you are not fooled, you are objective.

[crimsonfalcon07]

This post proves me you are absolutely clueless about what nandrolone is and how it works, how long does it stay in your body, how many times before and after the Wlad fight Fury was tested and when he was negative. So you absolutely have nothing to backup any objectivity, you need to simplify it to "Fury fan" and "anti-fan". So be it.

By the way - the discussion is if he will get tested and give positive result. You talk like he is already busted with PEDs, but hey - you are not fooled, you are objective.

You're trying to pretend that "boar meat" was proven. It wasn't. You're also trying to pretend that nandrolone was the only thing he failed a VADA test for. It wasn't. You are trying to pretend he was cleared. He wasn't. What does the Wlad fight have to do with anything? That's just you trying to cloud the issue. FACTS are that he had PEDs in his body. FACTS are that he's popped positive on multiple tests. FACTS are that he got suspended for 2 years for those tests. FACTS are that he never got cleared. FACTS are that it was never proven that he ate boar meat, let alone that it was contaminated. FACTS are that the farmer who supposedly supplied it said he was paid to lie on behalf of Team Fury and never actually delivered boar meat at all.

Your fanboy nonsense is almost completely devoid of any connection to reality.

Which is par for the course with you. One of the most hypocritical posters I've seen on here, particularly when it comes to Fury.

[IronDanHamza]

This post proves me you are absolutely clueless about what nandrolone is and how it works, how long does it stay in your body, how many times before and after the Wlad fight Fury was tested and when he was negative. So you absolutely have nothing to backup any objectivity, you need to simplify it to "Fury fan" and "anti-fan". So be it.

By the way - the discussion is if he will get tested and give positive result. You talk like he is already busted with PEDs, but hey - you are not fooled, you are objective.

I don't see what you took from his post to give this assessment? What did he say that makes you think he doesn't know about Nandrolone and how it works etc?

All he said was he tested positive for it, which he objectively did. His excuse was contaminated meat, which sure is possible. It's also impossible to prove like 99% of other fighters who test positive and fall back on contamination as a reason.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Very likely as many as Usyk. They’re all at it. I would confidently predict 99.9% of top level athletes are using PED’s. You’d essentially be ****** not too, I can’t blame them really.

[Quiksilva]

Very likely as many as Usyk. They’re all at it. I would confidently predict 99.9% of top level athletes are using PED’s. You’d essentially be ****** not too, I can’t blame them really.

I laugh most at the dumb fans who think their favorite athlete is clean and they are the ones to likely start up an argument by standing with it and defending their idol, fanboys are gonna fanboy.

But, hey, as harsh and brutal as the truth is, you spoke about the reality of professional sports. Not just on Boxing alone, but heaps others too. As long you don't get snapped or caught by the system you're fine in the holder of media outlets, fanbase, etc. Maybe pay them off.

Do I think Usyk is on it? **** yeah, look at his eyes. Canelo? Definitely, in the past, idk about now, but no surprise if still. Wlad Klits? Who at 41 once upon a time has a geared-up body like that? Pacquiao? 2008-2011 Yep. Mayweather? 2015 IV scandal to potentially mask other substances?

Many examples are out there, even to those that get caught often like Jarrell Miller.

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You're trying to pretend that "boar meat" was proven. It wasn't. You're also trying to pretend that nandrolone was the only thing he failed a VADA test for. It wasn't. You are trying to pretend he was cleared. He wasn't. What does the Wlad fight have to do with anything? That's just you trying to cloud the issue. FACTS are that he had PEDs in his body. FACTS are that he's popped positive on multiple tests. FACTS are that he got suspended for 2 years for those tests. FACTS are that he never got cleared. FACTS are that it was never proven that he ate boar meat, let alone that it was contaminated. FACTS are that the farmer who supposedly supplied it said he was paid to lie on behalf of Team Fury and never actually delivered boar meat at all.

Your fanboy nonsense is almost completely devoid of any connection to reality.

Which is par for the course with you. One of the most hypocritical posters I've seen on here, particularly when it comes to Fury.

Facts you say? Here are some: "Tyson and Hughie Fury's position is that they have never knowingly or deliberately committed any anti-doping rule violation." But you clearly have no idea what nandrolone is, as I said. You have no idea why I mention the Klitschko fight and how it relates to pre and post-fight testing and results with the life of nandrolone in your body. You can even type facts with bigger-sized letters, but what comes out of you is just a babble out of hate about Fury. And when you face someone who doesn't hate him, without necessarily being a fan, your comprehension of things breaks.

I am a hypocrite for not falling into hate or praise any fighter? I don't care if Fury will be alive tomorrow, but as I said - the infantile game of "hate him or you are a fan" has no comprehension of that. And yes - you can't see it non-biased because, as I said and will say it again because you are intentionally skipped to comment on: you are talking about him like he is caught already with banned substances. Well - he isn't. If he gets - of course, he is a cheater.

The farmer himself is some idiot - you trust a man who claims he was paid to lie for telling the truth? How about he wanted even more money and started blackmailing them for more money or he will come out with the story of him being paid to lie? Your thoughts can't go that far, can they? How could they when you consider ******* (which Fury admitted using) be the same as nandrolone?

I don't see what you took from his post to give this assessment? What did he say that makes you think he doesn't know about Nandrolone and how it works etc?

All he said was he tested positive for it, which he objectively did. His excuse was contaminated meat, which sure is possible. It's also impossible to prove like 99% of other fighters who test positive and fall back on contamination as a reason.

1. Claiming that testing positive for nandrolone surely means you used it, but it wasn't because of wild boar (something scientifically proven)
2. He doesn't understand why I mentioned the Klitschko fight, when Fury was tested before and after, what are his results, and how long nandrolone lives in your system

To be honest, some supplement manufacturers really put some steroids, cheaper (not necessarily of poor quality though) ones which makes you think their product is great. So I understand some fighters when they say they consumed something contaminated (including food - animals are sometimes fed with PEDs or antibiotics). Whether they are honest or not - we don't know in most cases, unless they are like Dillian Whyte.

I can ask you what makes you think he has any idea what is he talking about? No grudges at all, don't get me wrong.

[Clegg]

All fighters who test positive have an excuse, but only Fury could've used a plan that involved bribing a local farmer, and then have the whole thing get exposed because he's such a crook he didn't even pay the bribe.

[El_Mero]

As many as Ginger has

[IronDanHamza]

Facts you say? Here are some: "Tyson and Hughie Fury's position is that they have never knowingly or deliberately committed any anti-doping rule violation." But you clearly have no idea what nandrolone is, as I said. You have no idea why I mention the Klitschko fight and how it relates to pre and post-fight testing and results with the life of nandrolone in your body. You can even type facts with bigger-sized letters, but what comes out of you is just a babble out of hate about Fury. And when you face someone who doesn't hate him, without necessarily being a fan, your comprehension of things breaks.

I am a hypocrite for not falling into hate or praise any fighter? I don't care if Fury will be alive tomorrow, but as I said - the infantile game of "hate him or you are a fan" has no comprehension of that. And yes - you can't see it non-biased because, as I said and will say it again because you are intentionally skipped to comment on: you are talking about him like he is caught already with banned substances. Well - he isn't. If he gets - of course, he is a cheater.

The farmer himself is some idiot - you trust a man who claims he was paid to lie for telling the truth? How about he wanted even more money and started blackmailing them for more money or he will come out with the story of him being paid to lie? Your thoughts can't go that far, can they? How could they when you consider ******* (which Fury admitted using) be the same as nandrolone?

1. Claiming that testing positive for nandrolone surely means you used it, but it wasn't because of wild boar (something scientifically proven)
2. He doesn't understand why I mentioned the Klitschko fight, when Fury was tested before and after, what are his results, and how long nandrolone lives in your system

To be honest, some supplement manufacturers really put some steroids, cheaper (not necessarily of poor quality though) ones which makes you think their product is great. So I understand some fighters when they say they consumed something contaminated (including food - animals are sometimes fed with PEDs or antibiotics). Whether they are honest or not - we don't know in most cases, unless they are like Dillian Whyte.

I can ask you what makes you think he has any idea what is he talking about? No grudges at all, don't get me wrong.

He can correct me if I'm wrong but he said testing positive for Nandrolone means he had Nandrolone in his system, which is true.

In regards to the contaminated meat, we can't say that's it's scientifically proven that he tested positive due to that. Because there's no way to demonstrably test it. I'm not clued out on the specifics of the case, but from what I can gather I'm assuming that the trace amounts were consistent with contamination and therefore was deemed unintentional. That doesn't necessarily make it true that that is why he tested positive for it. That would be impossible to say.

Absolutely, contamination is a problem. Especially in over the counter supplements. That said, it's still incredibly difficult to prove for sure when someone has tested due to contamination. All we can use at that point is an educated guess. In Fury's case, we really don't know. The same goes for anyone who tests positive and blames contamination I.e 99% of fighters.

In regards to the Klitschko fight, just because he was clean for that doesn't mean he was clean before that. The half life of the drug itself can be manipulated by masking agents, mirco dosing etc. So I don't see anything wrong with that he said there.

I don't know if he does or doesn't know, but I just don't see anything from his post that would indicate otherwise in the sense I don't see anything he said that would be incorrect in regards to Nandrolone and how it works etc.