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How many roid cycles has Fury done since the Ngannou fight?
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostVery likely as many as Usyk. They’re all at it. I would confidently predict 99.9% of top level athletes are using PED’s. You’d essentially be ****** not too, I can’t blame them really.
this. these idiots think Uysk gained mass from protein shakes for heavyweight. thats not how elite athletics works.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
I can’t respond separately so will have to do it in one go;
Well that’s the thing, we can’t say for sure if he intentionally used it or not. He may have, he may not have. We will never know the actual answer.
Microdosing absolutely can lead to to adverse results. I know multiple athletes personally who fell victim to that.
Masking agents won’t flag on a drug test, that’s the point. It’s mostly water, most of the time.
It’s not a dangerous narrative at all. If someone years positive for a PED on one date, and then doesn’t on another date, that doesn’t prove a single thing in regards to their potential drug use. That is just an objective fact. Most fighters who fail a random testing procedure pass the vast majority of them, look at Conor Benn, look at Canelo as two immediate examples, they passed all their tests barring two within weeks apart. That doesn’t prove anything. And the same applies for Fury, the fact he passed other drug tests is meaningless, it’s the one he failed which is the important one.
He didn’t make it “magically disappear”, if he was Intentionally using, there are plenty of methods used get PED’s in and out of your system in rapid time, that’s what most athletes do. The half life of the compound is irrelevant.
Well that’s the key there, you can’t prove it was due to food. And never will be able to. It might have been, it might not have been. There’s no way of knowing.
The long and short of it is Fury tested positive for a OED so that leaves a cloud of doubt at the very least. How it got in his system is unknown but what we do know is it was there. You can’t make the same claim for someone that hasn’t tested positive before.
Whatever you say, UKADA has a statement I quoted. What really happened only he knows and you can never prove he did it intentionally. But if an agency wants to catch you it is easy because of the life of a drug in your system combined with frequent testing - blood and urine.
You are the same as @crimson (who twists everything said and deflects any deeper analysis only because he knows he is not capable of support his empty claims) and @dan-b, but they at least admit of disliking Fury, otherwise have the same low level of arguments like equaling ******* (Fury admitted to have used) to nandrolone (didn't admit to ever used it) just because they are banned. But there is a major difference of why they are banned and what they give and take to an athlete.Last edited by N/A; 04-14-2024, 03:18 AM.
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Originally posted by fifth_root View Post
Ok, ok, I get it - you are gonna contradict yourself over and over just for the argue but it is degrading in content, so I won't waste any more time. Examples: in a previous post you said micro-dosing is a way to hide a drug, now you say it can lead to adverse results. You also say it is easy to mask a drug (even with water, haha), yet you claim we can't suspect someone if he never tested positive - why, it is easy to hide, remember?
Whatever you say, UKADA has a statement I quoted. What really happened only he knows and you can never prove he did it intentionally. But if an agency wants to catch you it is easy because of the life of a drug in your system combined with frequent testing - blood and urine.
I’m a longtime Fury fan, was at his debut, went over to Germany to watch him beat Klitschko, was at 2 of the 3 Wilder fights, however, I would bet my life he’s used and is still using PED’s.
I don’t believe there’s a top level athlete who isn’t using PED’s tbh. It’s ingrained right throughout elite level sport. You’ve got Premier League football teams with over 50% of the players reportedly having asthma so they can get exemptions. It’s undeniable at this point.
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
Do you actually think Fury is clean?
I’m a longtime Fury fan, was at his debut, went over to Germany to watch him beat Klitschko, was at 2 of the 3 Wilder fights, however, I would bet my life he’s used and is still using PED’s.
Fury has been dirty in and out of the ring. He is a part time con man who built his rep on 39 year old Wlad, and milked the punch drunk fans in a trilogy with a big fraud called Wilder.
You're a big fan of his? You're a big fan of Roy Jones too. Hopefully you are not on ROIDS as they were / are.
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post
Fury has been dirty in and out of the ring. He is a part time con man who built his rep on 39 year old Wlad, and milked the punch drunk fans in a trilogy with a big fraud called Wilder.
You're a big fan of his? You're a big fan of Roy Jones too. Hopefully you are not on ROIDS as they were / are.
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The old adage my fighters on peds so everyone is on them is laughable . But at least some these Fury fanatics admit to now Lol
Fury simply cannot fight at peak levels without them and has no chin like his father showed in his career like a strong wind blows these guys over ( no offense ) ,there’s an obvious distinction to when he was on them and or su****ious of being on them . I saw him fight the first time in his U.S debut and just shrugged my shoulders after the big hype around him waiting to see it , obviously after that fight he decided to go on them at some point after Cunningham almost ruined his career bc it got started .
The idea that everyone is on them is ridiculous and when they get caught you guys mock the promoters anyway for cheating though they are the ones paying fir the extra tests ,only on boxing scene though ?
I don’t know if Usyks on them I’d say no he’s another elite athlete it’s his lifestyle, ppl who trained most their life can put on muscle rather quickly and certain body types genetically more prone to appear enhanced are usually accused bc the average person can’t comprehend being like them . Lol
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