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  • Shadoww702
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    #101
    Originally posted by messi807

    Not really. No fighter that moves up to fight the P4P #2 is a ‘coward’ - something carnela should learn.
    Ummm Canelo moved up and his 2nd or 3rd fight was against the P4P #1...

    What you forget about that? Then you call Canelo a coward??

    Man you are a HYPOCRITE make up your dang mind...

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    • TheCell8
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      #102
      Originally posted by Nightfall
      when did C. Smith, Yildrim, Ryder, Billy Jo Saunders and Rocky Fielding become great?
      I'm not saying they were. I'm refuting the idea that fighting Benavidez is a legacy defining fight for Canelo. Canelo should fight him over other lesser options, like a catchweight with Crawford, but he's not a legacy fight at this point. He's only 27 years old.

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      • El_Maldito_Rey
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        #103
        Originally posted by factsarenice

        Ward never got the accolades that some lessor fighter did and he can be a little testy about it. As for Canelo...there nothing noble about moving to the US for money, millions of Mexicans do it and you absolutely F&^king hate them for it so lets not BS one another.

        I assume you weren't around when Ward was active because you'd know that Beterbiev, Stevenson and Bivol were unwilling to fight the boogieman, only Andre Ward was willing to fight prime Kovalev. And since we're on the subject, every single trainer and expert on the planet agree that Andre Ward would have blasted Canelo out. The only people that dispute that are...lets just say less than expert or just dumb ass, slow, ******eds.
        Canelo's not coming here illegally idiot. Nothing wrong with coming here, if they're doing it legally.

        Ward retired when Bivol and Beterbiev were about to win championships. He got out at the right time, nothing wrong with that, they would've murdered him and he knew it. But he's being a hater, like usual.

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          #104
          Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
          Unless Benavidez has a fantastic run then it would affect Canelo's legacy because he avoided him. If he looses along the way years from it people will forget about him.

          Regardless that is the fight that the boxing world wants to watch and Canelo is the only one impeding that it happens. Maybe some Saudi money should get thrown in the mix.
          Tru 100% agree with this.

          I will add ppl forgot Benavidez went life and death with a nobody who I felt should of won like a lot of others.

          Like to remind ppl also Benavidez goes 12 almost always with guys his size. The dude is a CW on fight night.
          Last edited by Shadoww702; 03-11-2024, 12:21 PM.

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            #105
            Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

            Canelo's not coming here illegally idiot. Nothing wrong with coming here, if they're doing it legally.

            Ward retired when Bivol and Beterbiev were about to win championships. He got out at the right time, nothing wrong with that, they would've murdered him and he knew it. But he's being a hater, like usual.
            how can you tell though? i think we need to setup police patrols or "freedom patrols" to make sure.

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            • Shadoww702
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              #106
              Originally posted by Nightfall
              when did C. Smith, Yildrim, Ryder, Billy Jo Saunders and Rocky Fielding become great?
              When did Benavidez getting a GIFT SD against Gavril become so GREAT???

              Man a dude with 1 week notice took a fight against Benavodez and looked pretty damn good. SMH...

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                #107
                Originally posted by Shadoww702

                When did Benavidez getting a GIFT SD against Gavril become so GREAT???

                Man a dude with 1 week notice took a fight against Benavodez and looked pretty damn good. SMH...
                when? 6 and a half years ago you mean? since then hes beaten the #2 guy in the division. that holds a lot more weight than what happened 6 and a half years ago. this is like floyd ducking marg all over again with people saying "marg has 3 losses floyd doesnt have to fight him!" then floyd goes and fights sharmba mitchell and zab coming off a loss while ignoring margs recent accomplishments and #1 status.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  peds have already tainted his legacy, hes a great fighter tho
                  if you think your favorite boxers are clean, then I got an ocean front property in New Mexico to sell you.

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                  • daggum
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Poopdick

                    if you think your favorite boxers are clean, then I got an ocean front property in New Mexico to sell you.
                    well for canelo and floyd fans they kind of staked their claim to being "ped crusaders" so to get caught cheating should be important to them...of course its not anymore but that was a fun reversal. pacs only great because hes on peds! canelo gets caught doing peds...whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr hes still great

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      when? 6 and a half years ago you mean? since then hes beaten the #2 guy in the division. that holds a lot more weight than what happened 6 and a half years ago. this is like floyd ducking marg all over again with people saying "marg has 3 losses floyd doesnt have to fight him!" then floyd goes and fights sharmba mitchell and zab coming off a loss while ignoring margs recent accomplishments and #1 status.
                      They fought the same opponent and Canelo did better. And Benavidez was even 2 divisions bigger then Plant.

                      I want to see them fight but Benavidez is moving up and I can't picture him coming back down. So who will you blame then? Canelo not moving up or Ben not coming back down???

                      I can see why Canelo did this. Abel gonna get some 1st hand knowledge in Benavidez next fight as he is the other guys trainer....
                      Last edited by Shadoww702; 03-11-2024, 12:41 PM.

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