Comments Thread For: Ward: Canelo's Refusal to Fight Benavidez Would Taint His Legacy

[Shadoww702]

if you just look at boxrec ward has a pretty impressive resume, if you watch the fights though...my god what a sh-it fest. its like watching a snuff film or something. should be illegal. i mean it is illegal but they let it happen so i guess that makes it legal?

That we agree on and those ball shots to Kov???? Kov should of known right there that ref. would not be fair.

Just saw this sht when two black refs over turned a win against a mostly white team... yes blacks do favor their OWN like everyone else.

[Shadoww702]

When Kenny Mayweather Jr. Was ref'ing Floyd's fight I just bet the over and Floyd. Easy money....

[Spartacus26]

This comments thread is a PERFECT illustration of the virus that afflicts boxing communities today.. That virus being FANBOY SYNDROME. This is why these threads devolve into ignorant, snarky, wasteful and just plain grade school nonsense. Canelo "SUPER" fanboys Are the most pathetic Bunch I've seen, even more than Mayweather SUPERFANS, and that's saying a LOT.
You can layout CONCRETE, WELL DOCUMENTED AND CERTIFIED FACTS pertaining to Canelo and this manufacturered dynamic that turned into the overrated Pay per view Star that he is today and they still will carry on to the ends of time with these incredibly ignorant and insulting BS NARRATIVES.
Andre Ward is RIGHT. He is not a hater. He is a truth teller who doesn't buy the gimmick of Canelo and his carefully crafted career. He is correct in laying out the facts that Canelos record is littered with discrepancies in terms of WHO he fought, WHEN he fought them, who he DID NOT fight, the rehydration clauses, the limited flat-footed club fighters, the avoidance of Black fighters (EVEN OSCAR ADMITTED they stayed away from black fighters who could box and punch and move) who had the style that is obviously a problem for him. After Mayweather and Lara he was DONE with those kinds of black fighters. The cherry picking of little guys while he rehydrated to lightheavyweight when he campaigned in his made up division of 155. The avoidance of legitimate power punchers and most strikingly, his being the ONLY Mexican champion in history to give up his title rather than face his mandatory, a more PRIME Gennady Golovkin who was fresh off of his demolition of David Lemeiux. Waiting 2 plus years for Golovkin by Oscar's own admission, to slow down.
Then you have the PED failure. Ward is not lying when he makes this observation. And now Ward is on point with this matter concerning Benavides. The man is number one for 2 years going and this manufacturered fraud is blatantly dodging him like the plague.
TRUE AUTHENTIC Mexican warriors from the days of old would cut off their best punching hand before they would do the things that Canelo has done.
Salvador Sanchez, Danny Little Red Lopez, Lupe Pintor, Oscar Delahoya, Don Julio Caesar Chavez, Ricardo Lopez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rubin Olivares, The master Roberto Duran( half Mexican)..... these WARRIORS gave back to boxing and their fighting pride and their supporters blood, sweat and tears in victory and defeat. No ducking, no evasion, no fraudulent means to gain victory, no hiding behind promoters and the organizations providing cover etc.....
Ward is spot on and calling Ward a hater and attacking his resume and accomplishments is just plain Lazy and core level 5 total fanboy melt down.
Canelo is not a warrior by any means in the traditional sense and he never will be.

[LAchargers373]

One can go back and forth to suit their narrative all day long (and I'm sure yours has as much to do with GGG's skin tone as it does with your opinion of his resume). And you can pretty much do this with anyone. GGG fought who was there at the time. Guys like Cotto and Martinez (and others) wanted NO part of him. Neither did Canelo until GGG got older. And anyone with a pulse knows GGG won AT LEAST one of those fights anyway. Who else did you want him to fight besides a much bigger Andre Ward? GGG is a small middleweight. He steps into the ring at what? 168-170? Danny Jacobs was reported to step into the ring at 185-190 when he fought GGG (and still got knocked down and lost). SRL beat Hagler. Hearns had fought at welterweight just a few years prior to fighting Hagler at middleweight. He broke his hand in the very first round, and also opened a cut on Hagler that very well should've stopped the fight. Duran was a lightweight who, like Hearns, was still fighting at welterweight just a few years prior to fighting Hagler. He was several years older than Hagler, and he still managed to fight at SMW several times before he retired. And Mugabi was yet again another smaller fighter who was still fighting at super welterweight years after fighting Hagler at middleweight. And who was his best win again? Unlike Mugabi, at least guys like Jacobs, Lemieux and Geale were actual middleweight champions. Take your rose colored glasses off once in awhile.

Are you an idiot? You just put Daniel jacobs David Lemieux and Danny geale above John mugabi smh. You understand that mugabi is HOFamer right? Duran and SRL are ATGs all time top 10 p4p greats. Hearns an ATG and legend also a HOFamer. GGG never fought anyone man. He came over to america after Pavlik hopkins and Taylor moved up. Tried to cherry pick one legged Martinez and old balls cotto on their last fight or 2 of their careers. Dude never took one risk his whole career. Even now he ducked charlo for years and ducked Lara. Even if u give him the one win vs canelo in the 1st fight who cares that’s ONE elite win. ONE. Against the only elite opponent he ever faced. He could’ve fought froch or kessler ward kovalev but the guy literally fought NO ONE. Sad u think bums like lemiuex jacobs and geale are better names on ur resume than HOFamers. Lemieux jacobs and geale are journeymen mate. You can’t really believe they are equal to boxing royalty? Hagler would’ve beat all 3 of those bums on the night

[LAchargers373]

This comments thread is a PERFECT illustration of the virus that afflicts boxing communities today.. That virus being FANBOY SYNDROME. This is why these threads devolve into ignorant, snarky, wasteful and just plain grade school nonsense. Canelo "SUPER" fanboys Are the most pathetic Bunch I've seen, even more than Mayweather SUPERFANS, and that's saying a LOT.
You can layout CONCRETE, WELL DOCUMENTED AND CERTIFIED FACTS pertaining to Canelo and this manufacturered dynamic that turned into the overrated Pay per view Star that he is today and they still will carry on to the ends of time with these incredibly ignorant and insulting BS NARRATIVES.
Andre Ward is RIGHT. He is not a hater. He is a truth teller who doesn't buy the gimmick of Canelo and his carefully crafted career. He is correct in laying out the facts that Canelos record is littered with discrepancies in terms of WHO he fought, WHEN he fought them, who he DID NOT fight, the rehydration clauses, the limited flat-footed club fighters, the avoidance of Black fighters (EVEN OSCAR ADMITTED they stayed away from black fighters who could box and punch and move) who had the style that is obviously a problem for him. After Mayweather and Lara he was DONE with those kinds of black fighters. The cherry picking of little guys while he rehydrated to lightheavyweight when he campaigned in his made up division of 155. The avoidance of legitimate power punchers and most strikingly, his being the ONLY Mexican champion in history to give up his title rather than face his mandatory, a more PRIME Gennady Golovkin who was fresh off of his demolition of David Lemeiux. Waiting 2 plus years for Golovkin by Oscar's own admission, to slow down.
Then you have the PED failure. Ward is not lying when he makes this observation. And now Ward is on point with this matter concerning Benavides. The man is number one for 2 years going and this manufacturered fraud is blatantly dodging him like the plague.
TRUE AUTHENTIC Mexican warriors from the days of old would cut off their best punching hand before they would do the things that Canelo has done.
Salvador Sanchez, Danny Little Red Lopez, Lupe Pintor, Oscar Delahoya, Don Julio Caesar Chavez, Ricardo Lopez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rubin Olivares, The master Roberto Duran( half Mexican)..... these WARRIORS gave back to boxing and their fighting pride and their supporters blood, sweat and tears in victory and defeat. No ducking, no evasion, no fraudulent means to gain victory, no hiding behind promoters and the organizations providing cover etc.....
Ward is spot on and calling Ward a hater and attacking his resume and accomplishments is just plain Lazy and core level 5 total fanboy melt down.
Canelo is not a warrior by any means in the traditional sense and he never will be.

Ya but at least he fights some top guys you mentioned golovkin who has he EVER FOUGHT? Yet all these fanboys say canelo a ducker this and that and love GGG but that dude never fought even one elite fighter besides canelo lol

[LAchargers373]

Lara and Trout were two guys not known for being punchers. Cotto was old and past his prime. So was Mosley. GGG waited for years to fight Canelo. They tried to age him out, and he still made Canelo run in their 1st fight. Tell me canelo didnt lose their 1st fight? And got his eye busted open late in their 2nd fight. In Mayweather again he felt he wasn't a pumcher and it was a big payday for him so he felt no threat either way. It was a win win for canelo even if he lost. Saunders and Plant weren't known as punchers so he calculated this is low risk. And it allowed him to make some money while avoiding Benavidez. Bivol was a miscalculation. Canelo thought say Bivol wasn't a puncher and that he'd mostly run. He saw him as easier than Benavidez and it was a cherry pick from hell. And he got his face punched for 12 long rounds. His whole career was one big calculated strategic chess move.

Let’s say your conspiracy is somewhat based in truth because I do think canelo has been opportunistic in his career and has used his position in the sport to gain advantages at times. So saying that and knowing it you understand that you still have to fight the fights right? Canelo has fought at least 5 future HOFamers more like 6 to 8 depending on how a couple careers play out. Compare that to golovkin.compare it to any fighter active today. I wanna see canelo Benny I think it’s a great very competitive fight. But I’m not gonna ride the wave and say canelo is duckin I just don’t think Benny is so good to be ducked

[joseph5620]

It's always funny how you guys talk **** about GGG for being a "one weight world champion" but with the same mouth you'll suck Marvin Hagler's nuts for doing the same thing.

Hagler's resume craps all over Golovkin's. Their careers are not comparable.

[Toprope]

Who has he "killed"? What murderers row of boxers did Benavidez go through? He couldn't KO Plant and Andrade quit. That's not being a killer.

OK, with that said then it seems like for you, Benavidez who did not finish Plant should be easy work and Canelo should finish Benavidez who is not a killer. Is that what you mean?? Ryder went the distance with Canelo who is fighting Mungia next, dog walked Ryder. What are you saying??

[archiemoore1]

Let’s say your conspiracy is somewhat based in truth because I do think canelo has been opportunistic in his career and has used his position in the sport to gain advantages at times. So saying that and knowing it you understand that you still have to fight the fights right? Canelo has fought at least 5 future HOFamers more like 6 to 8 depending on how a couple careers play out. Compare that to golovkin.compare it to any fighter active today. I wanna see canelo Benny I think it’s a great very competitive fight. But I’m not gonna ride the wave and say canelo is duckin I just don’t think Benny is so good to be ducked

Anyone who says David isn't good because Ronald Gavril caught him off balance, is beyond foolish. what year was that? Did Gavril hurt him? What did he do to Gavril? Do u know how much sharper David is now, how much stronger and better? U are insane if u think otherwise. Tell u what. Go find David's gym and ask to spar him half a round. See if u ain't talking like Rid**** Bowe afterwards

[Smash]

benny the bogeyman or just easy money for a fight people want to see?

hhhhmmm

u choose