Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez Wins Lackluster Decision Over Jamaine Ortiz in Close Fight

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  • boxingitis
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    #501
    Originally posted by messi807

    Some of those fighters are in the top 10 P4P list of all time. What are you talking about?
    Which one?

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    • messi807
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      #502
      Originally posted by DClefthook

      Ok I need you to complete an essay. Before you look for Willie Pep I need you to research Nicolino Locche and write an essay on the significance of defense in boxing and why it is actually not running. Have it on my desk in the morning please!
      Good luck!

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      • boxingitis
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        #503
        Originally posted by messi807

        The audience boo’d Lopez after he got the decision. Teo even said ‘boo all ya’ll want’

        stop it.
        I didn't watch after the 9, it was that boring. It almost cought up the Shakur tag game. They both suck. One runs and throws ***** punches and other sucks at cutting the ring instead of focusing on the body.

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        • boxingitis
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          #504
          Originally posted by MulaKO

          They booed Teo first
          Unlres you saw something else
          Actually Teo had to tell them to suck a digh
          They booed Teo during the fight? Sorry didn't watch after the 9, it was that damm boring.

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            #505
            Originally posted by DClefthook

            Ok I need you to complete an essay. Before you look for Willie Pep I need you to research Nicolino Locche and write an essay on the significance of defense in boxing and why it is actually not running. Have it on my desk in the morning please!
            Running is defence now days. Did he beat Up Lopez or did he just land pity pat punches and WON a points match?
            Sounds like fencing.

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            • DeeMoney
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              #506
              Originally posted by Griever0730
              All these dudes in here talking about Ortiz running don't know ish about boxing. It's hit and don't get hit. Ortiz boxed brilliantly, had Lopez turning in circles all night looking for one big shot. All that pressure Lopez put on barely amounted to anything and looked lost the whole way thru. But judges always penalize a guy just bc he's on the backfoot and not making it a firefight. It's boxing, not fighting. Ortiz shoulda had this one or at least a draw.
              You are right, its hit and don’t get hit. But did Ortiz actually do enough hitting to win?
              I know final punch stats were roughly even in total connects, but to me it felt like Ortiz was mostly landing back foot jabs. Not as if Teo was consistently landing bombs, but there were rounds where he landed the cleaner and harder punches.
              Fwiw I had it a draw, but just hate the premise of holding one given fighter responsible for landing and bringing the offense. While rewarding the other fighter for their being limitted offensive output

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              • MulaKO
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                #507
                Originally posted by boxingitis

                They booed Teo during the fight? Sorry didn't watch after the 9, it was that damm boring.
                At the Teo grabbed the mic and told the crowd to sigh a digh cause they were booing
                Don’t sound like a guy who just won imo

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                • crimsonfalcon07
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                  #508
                  Originally posted by messi807

                  Some of those fighters are in the top 10 P4P list of all time. What are you talking about?
                  Guy has solidly proven he's a casual who DKSAB. Trying to talk smack about Willie Pep?! Should change his username to just "itis", which is fitting because that means "inflammation".

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                  • midastouch
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                    #509
                    It's quite shocking to read the knee-jerk, subjective remarks by purported boxing fans here. Judge the fight, round by round, round by round, add up your points, post the fight. Use the 10-point must system, effective aggression, ring generalship, defense etc. Slow the speed of the video down and look for contact even glancing contact and add those up. Yes, Teo could not cut of the ring effectively, but Ortiz is a spoiler, a negative boxer who will sink like stone after this fight. He stank out the joint. He did not come to win against the champ, he came to SURVIVE and you don't win a championship with survival tactics, it is the way of the COWARD which Ortiz is 100%. He spoke about beating Lopez? Really? With those scaredy tactics. Get a life. I had the fight razor close, at 115-113 for Teo and I guess I could live with a 114-114 majority draw but because Ortiz came to survive not win, I am leaning toward 115-113, Teo. The 117-111 score card was out of whack.

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                    • Griever0730
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                      #510
                      Originally posted by _original_

                      He boxed well and deserved to win but that was far from beautiful. You can’t expect to beat the champion and A lister coming in with that style of boxing; low output and too much movement. He made it easy to get robbed as an unknown with little name value.
                      I agree with this, but I said brilliant, not beautiful. Fight wasn't pretty at all. But Ortiz had a gameplan and followed it to a T. The fight was what it was bc Lopez once again showed that when faced with someone who moves around him and doesn't sit in front of him to throw bombs at them, he has no clue what to do and does nothing to change that. He's supremely gifted athletically, but it seems like he lacks basic fundamental values that are overshadowed by his all his physical gifts. This looked almost like a carbon copy of the Martin fight. Slick southpaws are a nightmare for him. But boxing being boxing, they know who brings in money and they gotta protect that.

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