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  • #51
    Yup, fighting a jabroni isn't going to make you the clear best.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

      This ^ pretty much. I'd have no problem with Usyk moving on for now, but I would be disappointed if he wasn't willing to fight Fury when the cut heals.
      Academic now isn't it? Usyk's agreed to wait again. Let's hope the sloppy slob finally gets it right.

      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
      Yup, fighting a jabroni isn't going to make you the clear best.
      No, but it would keep you sharp and potentially take care of a problematic mandatory whilst some sloppy, unathletic slob recovers (again).

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      • #53
        Originally posted by dan-b View Post

        Academic now isn't it? Usyk's agreed to wait again. Let's hope the sloppy slob finally gets it right.
        Yeah I was treating it as a hypothetical. You never know with Fury but I'm reasonably confident the fight will happen simply because of the money involved. I certainly hope so.
        Last edited by Apollo7; 02-05-2024, 12:38 PM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

          Yeah I was treating it as a hypothetical. You never with Fury but I'm reasonably confident the fight will happen simply because of the money involved. I certainly hope so.
          I'm sure Fury wants the money I just think he's a walking disaster. I made a thread last November stating why I felt he should be held to the 23rd December date. He had a rematch clause so he could have made his excuses up until the rematch. As it is, we haven't even had one fight.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by MikeyG View Post

            But these are not the same things. For the April 2023 the contract was not signed, they were in negotiations. You can't break contract which you didn't sign, no? You can blame Usyk if you want but we basically don't know anything about negotiations except what is let into media. December 2023 contract was actually signed.
            Then Usyk was fooling the people (like with his military service) until the very end back then if there was no contract (because Usyk had a WBA deadline of 1 April), which I can't tell because I doubt the contract signing is something they would delay until the latest possible (there are tickets to be sold, book the stadium, let the fans organize their time, so they can come for those who travel etc). So the event failure lies on him anyway.

            If Fury cannot fight in May for any reason, he will suffer the biggest fall in history. If he beats Usyk, all of the back and forth could be forgiven.
            Last edited by N/A; 02-06-2024, 07:46 AM.

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            • #56
              No, I won't blame Usyk in the slightest

              just like I didn't blame poor Wladimir for wasting two years of his life waiting for a rematch with the gypsy clown that never happened

              This is all on Fury, he's a liar and a cad

              In fact, Usyk should just move on already. The match ain't happening anyway.

              Fury will find another way to bail out of the may date


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              • #57
                It's a deep cut. Nobody's fault. Jeez.
                Fury has a six pack for Pete's sake. What more can he do?

                i share the frustration here, but I'm a realist.

                History doesn't allow alternatives on this. You either want to wait for your shot at the title held by Sullivan, Corbett, Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Maricano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis and Klitschko, or you don't.
                fifth_root N/A nathan sturley max baer like this.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                  Would you blame Usyk if he decided there was just too much risk that Fury never makes it to the ring?

                  Consider the original negotiations.

                  Consider that they had a fight for December. It's never Tyson's fault but he apparently couldn't be ready for December after a tough fight with Ngannou (a fight he chose to take).

                  Consider that they had a fight for two weeks from now. It's never Tyson's fault but he got split open in what looks like some pretty scrappy sparring.

                  Usyk has been in camp for this fight for about 5 months now. He's being asked to do it for another 3 months.

                  And there are no guarantees Fury's eye is good to go in 3 months (including camp and sparring).

                  If I were Usyk, I'd walk. Get on with his career. Usyk is a unified world champion waiting on a bloke who hasn't had a meaningful fight in a couple of years. Why would Usyk's career be dictated by Fury's problems?
                  - - Blubber specialty is no show for signed fights.

                  Usyk has made his big $$$ vs AJ. Blubber ain't worth another look save laughing at his leaking shorts.

                  Hrg the perfect retirement, ie go out on a win or on his shield against the new young gun like any top heavy champ who ever lived did.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                    It's a deep cut. Nobody's fault. Jeez.
                    Fury has a six pack for Pete's sake. What more can he do?

                    i share the frustration here, but I'm a realist.

                    History doesn't allow alternatives on this. You either want to wait for your shot at the title held by Sullivan, Corbett, Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Maricano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis and Klitschko, or you don't.
                    Klitschko's supposed lineage began with defeat of Ruslan Chagaev. It's really not all that impressive.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by dan-b View Post

                      Klitschko's supposed lineage began with defeat of Ruslan Chagaev. It's really not all that impressive.
                      Ya, Leon Spinks wasn't a remarkable fighter on paper either, but....He was the champ for a spin.

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