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  • #31
    Originally posted by LG Motel 22 View Post
    I don't get all you fury haters carrying on... Man had a chance to fight Ngannou, a novice for bulk cash then fight Usyk (considering if he lost to Usyk previous that Ngannou fight and easy $ would be off) and now he's got a legit cut in sparring, what do you expect him to do? Fight with the cut and get hit and the fights off anyway in the second round? Was good business by the man.
    "What do you expect him to do?" is exactly what Warren and Fury's supporters said after the Ngannou fight.

    The simple answer is that he shouldn't have fought Ngannou and then he'd have already faced Usyk at the end of last year.

    But he fought a debutant and got beaten up and delayed the Usyk fight.

    Usyk accepted a delay.

    Then he got beaten up by a sparring partner and delayed the fight again.

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    • #32
      Like i am aware a bunch of "conspiracy" stuff (outside of boxing) over the past few years.. have actually been true

      But some of this stuff is just insane..

      I am sure Fury..

      Damaged his legacy/got knocked down.. and almost lost to Nganou to delay the Usyk fight...

      And then deliberately got a massive cut just above his eye.. to delay the fight a couple months

      NOT...

      Just wake the **** up ffs.. **** happens.. If Fury didn't want to face Usyk he wouldn't have had to sign in the first place

      Its really not that complicated.. Usyk can walk away if he wants.. i doubt he will find a more lucrative fight (both money and legacy wise)

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      • #33
        None of them could walk away now. If they try, they will be fined $10 mil from the saudis. Good...put your foot down and don't take s*it from boxers who want to play shenanigans. If this is uk/usa, the promoters will be more lenient and let diva boxers get away with bs.

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        • #34
          They should just have a stand by fighter ready for May, just in case Tyson Fury does not fight.

          I was surprised by how quick, the announcement and rescheduled date was decided upon.

          Just before I saw the announcement, on here. I was thinking to myself? Surely this fight will now be delayed by at least 4 months at the minimum 'But in reality, in a ideal situation potentially 5 months'.

          Note: That injury may take 1 to 2 months to heal, then is Fury going to want to spar hard in his next training camp? Tyson Fury is in a situation, which he does not like. Tyson Fury does not like being a Champion, with all the requirements and mandates that people expect from him.

          I am not going to knock Fury while he is down abit, but? Fury is in this situation due to his own behaviour dating back to late 2022 'I have already documented the sequence of events, which lead to Fury sabotaging two fights with Anthony Joshua first then Oleksandr Usyk. Fights which he may well of won, because all the momentum was with Tyson Fury at that stage of his career'.

          I have always been adamant, soon as Fury sabotaged the potentially December 2022 fight vs Anthony Joshua and then the fight with Oleksandr Uysk in April 2023 'I highlighted those two moves as tactical mistakes from Tyson Fury'.

          In a drawn out battle, between the top-4 fighters in the Heavyweight division 'The competition potentially, was always going to move back towards both Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Usyk. And that is precisely what we are witnessing, and the last people to realize this will be Fury's hardcore fans'.

          The Heavyweight World Championship, the Undisturbed World Heavyweight titles 'They are like Thor's hammer'.

          Thor's hammer can only be lifted, by a individual who are deemed worthy enough to wield it.

          The World Heavyweight title, the Undisputed World Heavyweight titles 'Historically have been the greatest single achievements, any individual man can achieve in all of sporting history. Both the World Heavyweight Boxing Titles, and Olympic titles are historically the most prestigious and greatest titles any Individual Athlete can win' For me no other titles compare in sports, none.

          It is almost as if, The Heavyweight boxing World title's 'Have decided that Tyson Fury, is no longer worthy enough to wield their power'.

          All of Tyson Fury's under-par performances, the fight pull-outs, the training incidents 'They are all signs that Tyson Fury is losing his grip, his authority over the Heavyweight Division'.

          The competition continues, this is just another event 'In the battle to see who will be the last man standing of this era'.

          Tyson Fury is just about holding on, to his number 1 rating 'But for how much longer?' etc.





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          • #35
            Originally posted by Toffee View Post

            Why would I not want to see an undisputed fight? I obviously want to see a massive fight.

            The thread isn't about me. It's about Fury and Usyk. It's my view that there is reasonable doubt that Fury ever gets in that ring. Usyk and his team have said the same.

            There is a point where Usyk should not wait any longer for him. Personally I think it's now. Instead of holding up his own career he should fight his mandatory and then fight Fury. After all, this isn't Usyk's doing... he's been ready for months.
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            You're justifying walking away.
            Are you a fan of boxing? You seem intelligent. Just think about it. Kinda pathetic.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by dan-b View Post

              Except I've done no such thing and it's a product of your imagination. It's "sad" you feel the need to create some narrative to explain away disagreement.
              Oh you have. The fact you can't see it speaks volumes about you.

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              • #37
                Too much money and too close to retirement. Keep fighting mandatories till one of them hits him with a body shot he can't fake as a low blow and gets counted out.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by M312 View Post

                  Oh you have. The fact you can't see it speaks volumes about you.
                  Nah, you're just refusing to concede a point and claiming to know what's in the minds of others.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by M312 View Post

                    You're justifying walking away.
                    Are you a fan of boxing? You seem intelligent. Just think about it. Kinda pathetic.
                    Do you think the opposite? That Usyk would never be justified for walking away. No matter how many delays happen.

                    Yes, I think Usyk would be justified in walking away. But I also hope that we see the fight, even if I don't believe that we ever will.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                      They should just have a stand by fighter ready for May, just in case Tyson Fury does not fight.

                      I was surprised by how quick, the announcement and rescheduled date was decided upon.

                      Just before I saw the announcement, on here. I was thinking to myself? Surely this fight will now be delayed by at least 4 months at the minimum 'But in reality, in a ideal situation potentially 5 months'.

                      Note: That injury may take 1 to 2 months to heal, then is Fury going to want to spar hard in his next training camp? Tyson Fury is in a situation, which he does not like. Tyson Fury does not like being a Champion, with all the requirements and mandates that people expect from him.

                      From what Turkiye said, it doesn't seem like this was a considered delay. It's the latest date it can happen, rather than a date when they believe Fury will be ready.

                      There's nothing I would put past Fury, but I'm not quite buying into the conspiracy theories in this instance. I just think this mayhem follows Fury around. It's not just bad luck, it's bad preparation.

                      I do think he's absolutely got an 'out' now. And I think he'll take it.

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