Comments Thread For: Kambosos: Lomachenko Fight Gives Me My Redemption; Our Careers Are Both On The Line Here

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  • famicommander
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    #11
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

    I for one would like him to start faster and stop taking his foot off the gas. All his losses, he was pretty much in control by the end, and if he'd banked one or two more rounds early, or stepped up another gear, he would likely have won, maybe by stoppage. He's always been his own worst enemy. He was beating the crap out of Salido by the end of that fight, despite taking over 50 low blows. He basically gave up the first 7 rounds to Lopez. And he had Haney in all kinds of trouble in 11 and then took his foot off the gas and LET Haney win 12 in his best shot at undisputed.
    It's not like he was gunshy against Lopez for no reason. Lopez is a much bigger fighter, a much younger fighter, and a heavy puncher. It's easy to say he should have started earlier but if he had he may have been dropped or stopped. Lopez faded in the second half and that's why Lomachenko opened up.

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    • crimsonfalcon07
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      #12
      Originally posted by famicommander

      It's not like he was gunshy against Lopez for no reason. Lopez is a much bigger fighter, a much younger fighter, and a heavy puncher. It's easy to say he should have started earlier but if he had he may have been dropped or stopped. Lopez faded in the second half and that's why Lomachenko opened up.
      Has it been a while since you watched the fight? He literally didn't throw one of his highest percentage punches (overhand jab) after landing it in the second round. Before this fight, he was throwing somewhere around 20 jabs a round. Vs Lopez he didn't throw double digits until 6, and didn't open up at all until 8. He was trying to get in just using foot feints, when he normally sets his offense up behind an active jab. Lopez didn't fade at all. He fought a good disciplined fight the whole time. Loma just finally opened up in 8. He literally said that he decided in Rd 8 that he needed to go for broke and forget about babying his shoulder.

      You saw how much faster he started vs everyone else, and let's not forget that he's always fighting bigger and stronger guys.

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      • Theshotyoudontsee
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        #13
        Originally posted by famicommander

        It's not like he was gunshy against Lopez for no reason. Lopez is a much bigger fighter, a much younger fighter, and a heavy puncher. It's easy to say he should have started earlier but if he had he may have been dropped or stopped. Lopez faded in the second half and that's why Lomachenko opened up.
        Loma had a bum shoulder for years, gave him issues off and on. He hurt it before the Lopez fight was in a lot of pain. he basically was fighting one armed for most of the fight and then knew he that he had to use that hand in the latter half of the fight. That was about 50% of the normal Loma.

        It is really sad, and pretty ******, as he had put off surgery on it for years, and his dad told him to postpone the Lopez fight and get it fixed first. He thought he could beat Lopez with the problem.

        He started way too late. His skill set and ring IQ put him on a level with the elite of all time. But his career, even with the HOF and great fighters he has demolished, will end up a disappointment. Unless he goes on a crazy KO fest and fights another two years with no losses and regains his former dominance, he will be seen as a "could have been great" type of fighter. I love the guy, he waited too long to go pro.

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        • Creepybull
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          #14
          Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee

          Loma had a bum shoulder for years, gave him issues off and on. He hurt it before the Lopez fight was in a lot of pain. he basically was fighting one armed for most of the fight and then knew he that he had to use that hand in the latter half of the fight. That was about 50% of the normal Loma.

          It is really sad, and pretty ******, as he had put off surgery on it for years, and his dad told him to postpone the Lopez fight and get it fixed first. He thought he could beat Lopez with the problem.

          He started way too late. His skill set and ring IQ put him on a level with the elite of all time. But his career, even with the HOF and great fighters he has demolished, will end up a disappointment. Unless he goes on a crazy KO fest and fights another two years with no losses and regains his former dominance, he will be seen as a "could have been great" type of fighter. I love the guy, he waited too long to go pro.
          He said that with covid going on at that time he didn’t know if he’d get another shot at fighting for undisputed and decided to give it a go. That’s why the fight was never postponed.
          Unfortunately I don’t think he’ll go on a KO streak because on the promos for his Haney fight he said that he’s found a new reason in God and is living a humble life of redemption for his sins. With his newly found belief he doesn’t see the point in pushing for KOs and trying to hurt his opponents because they also have people who care for them. I think that’s weird coming out of a professional boxer but that’s what he believes in.
          With that said I still think that if he fights Tank he beats him because the guy throws 300 punches in 12 rounds and is always trying to set up traps but with Lomas IQ I don’t think that will work. But anyway, that fight is never happening.
          If he fights Shakur he could beat him as well because he is seemingly really limited against southpaws judging by his last fight and Loma is not as slow as people make him out to be, the guy was faster than Haney and Stevenson seems even slower than Haney.
          If he wins against them and that’s a huge but because you have to factor in robberies, he might still end up in the HoF in good shape considering his losses are all disputed and most people including me saw him clearly winning against Haney. Ain’t no way Haney won even 5 rounds. There are some competitive ones but every time I watch the fight it’s 8-4 Loma.
          With that being said Loma smokes Kambosos but I’m not sure about KOing him considering Loma don’t want to hurt his opponents.

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          • F l i c k e r
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            #15
            Kambosos is going to get clowned. Then Lomachenko is going to get right back into the WBC #1 contender spot because he wrecks a guy that Haney couldn't do over 24 rounds and Shakur "retired".

            That's my prediction.

            Lomachenko shines against the C and B level guys.

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            • champion4ever
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              #16
              Loma wins this fight without even trying hard because Kambosos simply cannot fight. Which is something I find very interesting because Teo lost to this kid.

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              • Roadblock
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                #17
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Loma wins this fight without even trying hard because Kambosos simply cannot fight. Which is something I find very interesting because Teo lost to this kid.
                Im hoping he thinks Im in Aus don't go to the cards and stops him, the odds for a Loma stoppage is 5 to 1, couldn't help myself I had to get some of that.

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                • MulaKO
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                  I for one would like him to start faster and stop taking his foot off the gas. All his losses, he was pretty much in control by the end, and if he'd banked one or two more rounds early, or stepped up another gear, he would likely have won, maybe by stoppage. He's always been his own worst enemy. He was beating the crap out of Salido by the end of that fight, despite taking over 50 low blows. He basically gave up the first 7 rounds to Lopez. And he had Haney in all kinds of trouble in 11 and then took his foot off the gas and LET Haney win 12 in his best shot at undisputed.

                  You described it to a fughin tee

                  He's always been his own worst enemy

                  Truer words right here

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                  • joseph5620
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by boxingitis

                    You have to remember they are bigger than him. Usually when both are elite the bigger man wins. They were very close fights. Haney could have been a draw or a victory in many peoples view. He did mess up taking the 12 round off on both fights.
                    Duran, Mayweather, Pacquiao Whitaker, and many others moved up in weight against bigger fighters with great success. Lomachenko doesn't get a pass just because he moved up in weight.

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                    • jackblack008
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                      #20
                      First decide if Haney was weight drained or a weight bully.

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