Comments Thread For: Kell Brook: Golovkin Fight Damaged Me, It Changed Me, Should Have Withdrew From Spence Bout

[brettWall]

The timeline I remember leading to those fights was Kell Brook was desperate for fights. He was calling out everybody, Thurman, Broner, Garcia, Spence, PBC guys. Spence was interested but had to take another useless fight like the Bundu one. Had Spence discarded the Bundu fight and went straight to the Brook fight, the Golovkin/Brook would not have happened. Tragic part was Brook was pressured to take the Spence fight while still nursing an injury. The pressure came from both sides, Spence camp and Brook's promoters.

[Combat Talk Radio]

“The training camp for the Spence Jnr. fight was terrible, I was carrying all of this extra weight. I wanted to be completely and utterly focused, but I was having problems with my trainer who was dealing with things at home. Everything was wrong going into that fight.

“I got to the fight and my family were telling me I needed to pull out, but we’d sold all the tickets and I’d done my training. In my own mind I was thinking, ‘I’m going to make this weight, I’ve got a fight and I’m a fighter’. Looking back, it was one fight I wish I had pulled out of.

If this were Deontay Wilder saying these things, NSB would ridicule him for the excuses.

Brook performed near perfectly in that fight - arguably won the majority of the rounds. But Spence just broke him down eventually, just like he did Ugas.

[Beercules]

Meh Chocolate Brownie

[Smash]

u mean u shouldnt have let eddie talk u into taking the ggg fight & then if i remember right he may have had a chance to make a unification fight with thurman before spence got his mando shot, i seem to remember thinking at the time he should go for that

eddie hearn actually advised brook to swerve the spence fight i think as well with his smashed face, weight to lose and gimpy leg lol

to be fair to kell brook, he is a bit crazy, he was prone to biting off more than he can chew, he was managed great up to porter possibly

[_Rexy_]

Kell brook fight changed ggg too and made him lose his "monster" aura. It showed that ggg can be hurt by little guys and ggg also went on a downward decline after this fight, arguably losing to jacobs and derevyanchenko, losing to canelo twice, getting tagged up by lesser competition like steve rolls, and more people were calling him out after the kell brook fight.

Yeah, G sure looked like a bum caving Brooks skull in in four rounds.

[Sammy7861992]

I think when U look back he had a great career definitely elite he could give any one trouble and faught alot of top p4p fighters in there prime, kell really worked his name special right he was special, huge respect for this man , legend

[archiemoore1]

Listen Kell Brook was a bad mofo. Floyd never wanted to fight him. He was active when Kell was doimg his thing. I remember Floyd in an interview, called him "Cal Brock", on purpose. He did BS like that when he didn't wanna fight a guy, he'd pretend to not know who he is, mispronounce their name and sh..t. No one from PBC ever mentioned his name when he wasn't all broken up and stabbed up. Shawn Porter is the only mofo over on PBC side that had the heart to face him. Amir Khan ran scared for over a dozen years. That's why his wife Faryl went to AJ. She knew Amir had hollow nuts. Kell had to go up to face GGG for a good payday because everyone was ducking him at welterweight. B4 his facial injuries and his stabbing, he was capable of beating almost anyone around at his weight, if given the opportunity. Maybe he would have lost some, but the point is, he was always willing to face anyone of.them. he was a brave man. So brave he almost got gutted like a fish for trying to be a booty bandit. But in the boxing ring he was a fearless competitor and a tough night for anyone around at that time

[Sammy7861992]

Kell fighting GGG and Khan fighting Canelo were two of the biggest mistakes in boxing matchmaking. Ruined two boxers. The two boxers freely took the bouts; no one was forcing them to do so, but how in hell did either guy think going into the ring that they had a chance in hell of SURVIVING the fight much less winning it. I Underderstand the paaaaay daaaaay aspect but surely their mental and physical well being should have been taken into consideration.

They wanted to be like pacman

[daggum]

Fight synopsis; Brook is outboxing GGG and GGG likely thinks that he is going to lose if he keeps boxing. GGG then completely changes tactics and simply beats Brook up really hard.
I just never could understand the GGG haters because this was one of the coolest things I have seen in the countless fights I have watched. Real fighting

that wasnt what happened though lol. he was never being outboxed during the fight. i really dont know what people are seeing when they are watching boxing or when they use the term "outboxing" it seems like an empty platitude people like to throw out. i just look at the punches and ggg was landing the bettter punches, from what ive gathered the term outboxing simply seems to be backpedaling around the ring throwing a jab and that means you are auto winning in some peoples minds. i dont get it. as if there is one way to do boxing and thats the optimal way, its not. whatever lands you the best punches wins you the fight. going forward, backwards, countering, leading, but that term has been co-opt by people who like a certain style consisting of less engagement which is fine but if you arent winning the engagements when they do happen then you arent outboxing anyone.

in the first round for example ggg had brook badly hurt and reeling around the ring, there is no way to reasonably score that round to brook or say brook was outboxing ggg when that was the case. in the 2nd round brook stood his ground and traded punches with ggg because he wasnt able to simply outbox ggg from range. it was a pretty good round for brook as he won it but he also took a ton of damage in the process, then he got dropped in the third round and the ref "missed it" but ggg won the round anyway and in the 4th he went into survival mode losing the round clearly because he didnt engage and had nothing on his punches anymore while ggg was still steamrolling, before being stopped in the 5th. outboxing must be a magic eye kinda thing where people just see what they want to see then again you have people who say ward outboxed kovalev or some sh-it like that so who knows

[BustedKnuckles]

Tbh I blame AMIR KHAN for this debacle and for ruining both his + Kell's career's. Let me explain...Khan was always a world class fighter (obviously...he was a unified world champion) but NEVER an elite top 10 p4p fighter at his peak. However, his huge ego couldn't handle that which is why he was constantly chasing fights with p4p #1 fighter's during his career like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo + Crawford etc because if he managed to beat one of those guys, he could look back on his career one day and say 'I was the #1 p4p fighter during my peak'. However, those fights either never materialised and when they did he got his ass handed to him because levels exist for a reason.

Anyhow, after getting knocked out by Garcia, Khan left Roach and hired Hunter where he went on a 5 fight unbeaten streak as a Welterweight with some very one-sided victories over former champions Algieri, Alexander & Collazo. Khan was boxing beautifully and could've had a real shot at becoming a two weight world champion. Following his victory over Algieri in May 2015, it was literally the PERFECT time to make a huge 'Battle of Britain' showdown for newly crowned Brook's IBF Welterweight title. The fight would've been massive in England given their rivalry plus the fact that a world title was on the line. However, instead of facing Kell, Khan got greedy and climbed two weight divisions to fight Canelo who took what was left of his limited punch resistance and a few years out of his career by flattening him like a rolling pin rolling dough. As a result, Kell was forced to look for other opponents and faced the same fate himself at the hands of Golovkin which he admits was a big mistake and ruined his career.

I've always rated Kell as the better fighter of the two so would've fancied him to beat Khan had they both met at 147 in 2015. However, Khan's victory over Alexander was so impressive plus he seemed to handle Brook's punches much better than I thought without going down when they finally did meet that I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to outbox him either. Anyhow, this is just a tale of how one man's greed and ego robbed the fan's of a fantastic fight and ruined both fighter's career's in the process.

That was a long story dude. Why did I read that whole thing? I dont know, but interesting story.