Comments Thread For: Kell Brook: Golovkin Fight Damaged Me, It Changed Me, Should Have Withdrew From Spence Bout

[satiev1]

Hearns is the epitome of the moder day version of don king and the shady promoters we see in the boxing films that don't care about the fighters but care just about money

[Teetotaler69]

Errol also had problems going into that fight, he had the flu and was fighting overseas, it was a battle no doubt about that.

Lmfao so pampered

[garfios]

The way Hearn treat Brook will always disgust me, Brook and Froch were his first real big names and he let him ruin his career to save his bacon...

And quite frankly this is why I don't rate Spence as much as others rate him.

This is arguably his best win and it's against a guy who just got battered and his face broken by arguably one of the most feared fighters in boxing at the time.

And on top of that had to move down two divisions to fight a guy people were claiming was some kind of prodigy...

Who's fault is it?

[garfios]

The timeline I remember leading to those fights was Kell Brook was desperate for fights. He was calling out everybody, Thurman, Broner, Garcia, Spence, PBC guys. Spence was interested but had to take another useless fight like the Bundu one. Had Spence discarded the Bundu fight and went straight to the Brook fight, the Golovkin/Brook would not have happened. Tragic part was Brook was pressured to take the Spence fight while still nursing an injury. The pressure came from both sides, Spence camp and Brook's promoters.

The tragic part is that he had a real excuse for not taking the fight, and he was pressured to fight, they might told him that he was going to lose his belt, look at the Charlo's and Company, take them years to defend their titles and nothing happens.

[Sid-Knee]

Tbh I blame AMIR KHAN for this debacle and for ruining both his + Kell's career's. Let me explain...Khan was always a world class fighter (obviously...he was a unified world champion) but NEVER an elite top 10 p4p fighter at his peak. However, his huge ego couldn't handle that which is why he was constantly chasing fights with p4p #1 fighter's during his career like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo + Crawford etc because if he managed to beat one of those guys, he could look back on his career one day and say 'I was the #1 p4p fighter during my peak'. However, those fights either never materialised and when they did he got his ass handed to him because levels exist for a reason.

Anyhow, after getting knocked out by Garcia, Khan left Roach and hired Hunter where he went on a 5 fight unbeaten streak as a Welterweight with some very one-sided victories over former champions Algieri, Alexander & Collazo. Khan was boxing beautifully and could've had a real shot at becoming a two weight world champion. Following his victory over Algieri in May 2015, it was literally the PERFECT time to make a huge 'Battle of Britain' showdown for newly crowned Brook's IBF Welterweight title. The fight would've been massive in England given their rivalry plus the fact that a world title was on the line. However, instead of facing Kell, Khan got greedy and climbed two weight divisions to fight Canelo who took what was left of his limited punch resistance and a few years out of his career by flattening him like a rolling pin rolling dough. As a result, Kell was forced to look for other opponents and faced the same fate himself at the hands of Golovkin which he admits was a big mistake and ruined his career.

I've always rated Kell as the better fighter of the two so would've fancied him to beat Khan had they both met at 147 in 2015. However, Khan's victory over Alexander was so impressive plus he seemed to handle Brook's punches much better than I thought without going down when they finally did meet that I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to outbox him either. Anyhow, this is just a tale of how one man's greed and ego robbed the fan's of a fantastic fight and ruined both fighter's career's in the process.

Khan takes some of the blame. But Thurman and Danny Garcia also take some of the blame for turning down 4 Million dollar offers for unifications. But let's say Khan did face Brook, what next at Welter? Danny and Thurman are still not going to fight him. If PBC fighters can turn down 100 mill offers against their bums who can't sell tickets or much in the way of PPV numbers on their star ability alone, then no one has a chance to get them into a ring.

I massively disagree about "Elite" being a fighter on the P4P list. Those lists are American controlled so you get fighters on there that shouldn't be. You only need to look at Spence's resume compared to Khan's. It's night and day. Khan has a much better resume. Also, Khan didn't take on Canelo for reasons of greed. The Brook fight offered much more money than he got for that fight. Much more. He just couldn't bare losing to Kell so played games instead.

I also massively disagree about "Levels" too. How could you judge Khan who is a Welter who has already moved up 2 weight classes before moving straight up 2 more against Canelo who was a full on Middleweight? Then you look at a shot Khan against Crawford and it get's even more ridiculous. It's like claiming Mike Tyson wasn't good enough to step up the levels when facing a complete bum in McBride when he was shot to pieces like Khan was. Then ask yourself could Crawford move straight up to Middleweight and beat the version of Canelo Khan fought? The answer is, absolutely no. Canelo would be far too big for him. Nor would he win as many rounds as Khan did.

[garfios]

I think when U look back he had a great career definitely elite he could give any one trouble and faught alot of top p4p fighters in there prime, kell really worked his name special right he was special, huge respect for this man , legend

He fought three elite guys and lost.

[Sid-Knee]

Some rewriting Brook's career here. He was constantly plagued by injuries and fighting lower tier fighters, the fight with Porter that he won he held an average of 14 times per round.

He was one of those fighters that could had been in the mix with Pac and Floyd at the time but his career stagnated. Lets not forget when he got stabbed on vacation asking for kisses.

Solid fighter but never won the big one and all he did was chase Amir.

That is in fact, false. He fought his mandatories to keep his title whilst chasing Danny Garcia, Thurman and Khan. Danny and Thurman were offered 4 mill for those fights. Khan was offered a lot more. It wasn't his fault no one would fight him. Therefore, you're the one rewriting history here.

The machete attack was an unfortunate situation. But where are these injuries he was supposedly plagued by? Which fights didn't happen for the sole reason of his "Injuries"?

Brook wanted Pac but he declined. Floyd wasn't going anywhere near him. Floyd was on a cherry picking crusade like most of his career. Brook was sick and tired of not getting the fights he wanted so he foolishly went up.

[Sid-Knee]

It was an annoying fight, he had enough skills not to do that but that holding was excessive. If you are a fan of his you won't mind all the holding, the same way I felt about Porter coming with his head in. The ref didn't do their jobs.

Kell needed to control Porter's head that was flying in all the time and cutting his face up. So yes, Kell needed to do that. Otherwise it becomes a no contest due to the fight coming to an end due to cuts.

[Sid-Knee]

Acting like it was some brave decision to fight GGG is ludicrous - he did it for a payday. He and Hearn reasoned that his title wasnt on the line, so there was nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Turned out, they were wrong.

Yeah, because if your title isn't on the line, fighting a prime Golovkin two weights up is something anyone else would do if given the opportunity. Haha.

Kell got 5 Mill for the fight. Thurman and Danny G were offered 4 Mill to unify at Welter with him in their own weight class. That's 1 Mill less than Kell got for the Golovkin fight. They decided it was better just to fight each other for 1 Mill apiece.

[Sid-Knee]

Always thought Brook was just below elite skill wise. But he didn't back down from any challenge and was tougher than hell. A real warrior. I'd rather have watched Brook in his prime than many of the elite guys. He fought to win.

Kell didn't have elite skill? What? He very much did. We must have watched a completely different fighter.