Beterbiev is on another level not seen often throughout history.

[Teetotaler69]

Skill for skill, prime roy demolishes beterbiev. Beterbiev is a slow a$$ tortoise compared to him. He can't keep up.

Can they both be on roids or just Roy? Lmao.

[Oracle01]

Every ATG goes life and death with guys not regarded on their level that's boxing, name any ATG you like and I will point out a struggle with what was considered and ordinary guy, and Yarde is a talented fighter. Fans hang of this stuff all the time because no fighter is invincible at all times, the overall body of work is what matters.

Not every great fighter goes life and death. Artur only has 20 fights thats nothing. People getting carried away because he beat up callum smith lmao.

[ShoulderRoll]

You've actually been the opposite of clear and have refused to clarify multiple times.

Let's see if we can get some clarification finally;

Are you saying that Beterbiev was likely clean from 2016-2023 and is only not likely clean now? Or does it backtrack to the rest of his career now these findings have arose?

And by "years", how many years? Years as in the literal plural term of years so 2 years? When does "su****ion" expire? 1 year? 2? 5? Furthermore why does it even expire?

How far does "weird findings" stretch? Because you have deemed Mayweather "clean" despite never doing VADA, as well as showing suscpiscous behaviour. You also deem Ortiz "likely clean" on the basis his condition that has a strong link to PED use "doesn't neccesarily mean it's due to PED use" but that exact same thing can also be said for Beterbeiv's atypical finding.

So you need to be a lot more clear on what is and isn't likely clean.

Does passing a USADA program for years deem you clean? I.e Like Floyd did who you deem clean.

Having a documented history of passing multiple VADA tests for several years with no odd or weird test results. It has to be more than 1 year, with the more years the better. If the testing is from USADA it has to be done in the US, not outside the country as USADA only has jurisdiction here and in other places has to resort to local labs. I’ve told you this many times already.

Canelo meets that criteria. Vergil Ortiz meets that criteria. Beterbiev met that criteria…until his recent test where they found him to have atypically elevated levels of HGH and testosterone. You yourself found that su****ious.

Floyd got a retroactive TUE for his IV from USADA. He did nothing wrong according to them, hence that is not su****ious unless you think USADA is corrupt?

[Haka]

This is a classic case of recency bias. Well done. His best win was over a guy with 17 pro fights yet now he's an ATG. Cool. I guess you forgot he went life and death with Yarde 2 fights ago.

His time won't last long since he is already 39 but we are all witnessing an ATG at work. It is just a FYI, in between discussing the disposable garbage fighters at around lightweight.

[Haka]

Because he beat Callum Smith? lmao

Just a heads up that AB is history in the making.

[IronDanHamza]

ShoulderRoll

“Having a documented history of passing multiple VADA tests for several years with no odd or weird test results. It has to be more than 1 year, with the more years the better. If the testing is from USADA it has to be done in the US, not outside the country as USADA only has jurisdiction here and in other places has to resort to local labs. I’ve told you this many times already.”

Right ok so we’ve got down to it then so to be likely clean or clean it’s;

”More than 1 year VADA or USADA(Where fighter is located in thebUS) with no weird results”

So Ngannou fits that criteria but you said he’s assuredly on PEDs?

How do you justify that claim?

I also assume you deem Jarrel Miller likely clean then he fits that criteria. But you said he was a cheater recently? How do you justify that?

“Canelo meets that criteria. Vergil Ortiz meets that criteria. Beterbiev met that criteria…until his recent test where they found him to have atypically elevated levels of HGH and testosterone. You yourself found that su****ious”

I find all three su****ious. Canelo being the obviously most su****ious as he’s failed multiple drug tests and Beterbiev the least su****ious of the three.

You only seem one su****ious because you’re ****** and don’t understand this stuff.

Floyd got a retroactive TUE for his IV from USADA. He did nothing wrong according to them, hence that is not su****ious unless you think USADA is corrupt?

Ah ok now this is very interesting.

You deem Floyd’s su****ious behaviour as not su****ious because USADA deemed it so.

But hold on, the head of VADA publicly stated that Beterbiev’s atypical results were not su****ious and Infact common.

So you seem to be applying one rule for one and another for another here once again.

Are you going to retract that Beterbiev is su****ious and deem him likely clean like you do Floyd on this basis?

[satiev1]

beterbiev is an active atg, would pose massive problems to any legendary fighter at 175, including roy jones.

facts

[satiev1]

Both Browne and Gvodzyk had good defence, Beterbiev’s pressure is that good that it essentially forces you into trading. Bivol is a sterner test, but you can guarantee at some point Bivol will have to try and fight him off.

He changes it up by going to the body and then mixing it up. The body punches hurt so much that fighers have no choice but to drop their guard

[satiev1]

people are going absolutely crazy. Didn't you all think callum smith was a eurobum? I was one of the few before the fight that thought he had the skills to pull off an upset. Now people are acting like he was the best win of beterbiev's career (maybe he was but come on). And when he was actually punching, beterbiev didn't do much. Beterbiev was able to punish him because he stopped punching and literally let beterbiev come into the pocket. When smith was punching and put beterbiev on the back foot, beterbiev backed up and threw nothing. When he was on the outside, he only threw single shots. He didn't do slip entries. He didn't do split entries. What did he do skill wise to get in the pocket to throw his offense? Nothing. He just waited until smith left the front door open and walked in. Smith did the same thing against canelo. And smith didn't have the feet to exit out the side against beterbiev and make him reset the whole pattern. He doesn't have the cardio to do that for twelve. Bivol does. He's done that for 119 rounds + 1:41.

beterbiev has to win the jab battle to beat bivol. if he can outjab bivol, he'll likely win the fight, and probably by stoppage. If he can't do that, he's going to have to time bivol coming in, and he does have the advantage having also come up in the russian system, but he's only got an inch of reach advantage (essentially a half inch in arm length, which is the really relevant measurement), and bivol is way more defensively responsible.

I think the first 2-3 rounds will make it clear who will win. If he can get inside and work in any of the first 3 rounds, it's going to be a good fight. Otherwise i'm picking bivol by points.

no he dosen't. Beterbiev can counter bivol with an over right hand. Beterbiev is a much better counter puncher. He can put bivol against the ropes and break him down with the body punches. Bivol needs to hurt beterbiev to beat him and bivol is not a good body puncher. If he can't hurt beterbiev he's gonna get stopped.

[satiev1]

imo , a replica of the gvodzyk fight

facts but gvozdyk has ko 1 punch power which bivol dosen't. He can't crack an egg. Might be an easier fight.