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  • IronDanHamza
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    #151
    ShoulderRoll

    Let's try again shall we;

    So you'd agree that Floyd left America frequently when active also then?

    Do you have an example of Ngannou leaving America for a training camp? I don't recall a single time that happened

    Floyd doesn't and has never done USADA 365 testing (Unlike Ngannou who did it over over a decade)

    Is Floyd not likely clean, since he travels and doesn't do 365 USADA testing? We need to get these things clarified for you to justify your stances.

    You deem Floyd not su****ious because USADA deemed it so but not the case when VADA deem beterbeiv not su****ious and in fact a common occurrence.

    Why do you take USADA's word as authority and not VADA? I thought you said VADA were better than USADA?

    You can't have both. Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt? Why won't you answer that?


    Why are you avoiding these questions?

    Will you answer these questions? Or take your L?​​

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #152
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      Beterbiev can’t be called a cheat because he didn’t test positive.

      But he can be sad to be su****ious because of the atypically high levels of HGH and testosterone that VADA found. IronDan himself has said he finds it su****ious, so…
      But VADA said it's not su****ious and in fact common.

      Doesn't that mean you don't find it su****ious?

      Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt?​​​

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        #153
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        ShoulderRoll

        Let's try again shall we;

        So you'd agree that Floyd left America frequently when active also then?

        Do you have an example of Ngannou leaving America for a training camp? I don't recall a single time that happened

        Floyd doesn't and has never done USADA 365 testing (Unlike Ngannou who did it over over a decade)

        Is Floyd not likely clean, since he travels and doesn't do 365 USADA testing? We need to get these things clarified for you to justify your stances.

        You deem Floyd not su****ious because USADA deemed it so but not the case when VADA deem beterbeiv not su****ious and in fact a common occurrence.

        Why do you take USADA's word as authority and not VADA? I thought you said VADA were better than USADA?

        You can't have both. Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt? Why won't you answer that?


        Why are you avoiding these questions?

        Will you answer these questions? Or take your L?​​
        Zzzzzzzz.

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          #154
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          And what's on them? Have you seen them?
          You wanted me to stop talking about the receipts but I won’t, since multiple sources mentioned them.

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            #155
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Zzzzzzzz.
            Why are you refusing to answer basic, simple questions? I don't get it.

            Let's try again shall we;

            So you'd agree that Floyd left America frequently when active also then?

            Do you have an example of Ngannou leaving America for a training camp? I don't recall a single time that happened

            Floyd doesn't and has never done USADA 365 testing (Unlike Ngannou who did it over over a decade)

            Is Floyd not likely clean, since he travels and doesn't do 365 USADA testing? We need to get these things clarified for you to justify your stances.

            You deem Floyd not su****ious because USADA deemed it so but not the case when VADA deem beterbeiv not su****ious and in fact a common occurrence.

            Why do you take USADA's word as authority and not VADA? I thought you said VADA were better than USADA?

            You can't have both. Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt? Why won't you answer that?


            Why are you avoiding these questions?

            Will you answer these questions? Or take your L?​​​

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #156
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              You wanted me to stop talking about the receipts but I won’t, since multiple sources mentioned them.
              No, I didn't. I've just asked another question about them.

              Have you seen them and what's on them?

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                #157
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Beterbiev can’t be called a cheat because he didn’t test positive.

                But he can be sad to be su****ious because of the atypically high levels of HGH and testosterone that VADA found. IronDan himself has said he finds it su****ious, so…
                But VADA said it's not su****ious and in fact common.

                Doesn't that mean you don't find it su****ious?

                Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt?​​​​

                Why are openly avoiding these questions?

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  You wanted me to stop talking about the receipts but I won’t, since multiple sources mentioned them.
                  Is Beterbiev really worth watching.

                  Lomanchenko impressed the **** out if me.

                  Is he on that level boxing wise?

                  I'm not talking about power.

                  ....................Rockin'

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Rockin'

                    Is Beterbiev really worth watching.

                    Lomanchenko impressed the **** out if me.

                    Is he on that level boxing wise?

                    I'm not talking about power.

                    ....................Rockin'
                    He is not on the level of a Lomachenko boxing wise.

                    Just very solid fundamentals. Strong as hell though, every punch he throws seems to hurt the other guy and nothing seems to hurt him. Which is what sets him apart.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      But VADA said it's not su****ious and in fact common.

                      Doesn't that mean you don't find it su****ious?

                      Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt?​​​​

                      Why are openly avoiding these questions?
                      Beterbiev is a PED cheat just like Floyd

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