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  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

    But VADA said it's not su****ious and in fact common.

    Doesn't that mean you don't find it su****ious?

    Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt?
    ShoulderRoll

    Answer the questions please.

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    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      How do you know that?

      Have you seen the evidence provided in the hearing?
      ShoulderRoll

      And these.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about when he was an active fighter.

        So you'd agree that Floyd left America frequently when active also then?

        Do you have an example of Ngannou leaving America for a training camp? I don't recall a single time that happened.​



        You might want to look up the word "circular". Because the word circular doesn't apply here.

        They're also only never ending because you don't answer the questios.

        So I'll try again;

        Floyd doesn't and has never done USADA 365 testing (Unlike Ngannou who did it over over a decade) so I don't see the relevance as to why.

        Is Floyd not likely clean, since he travels and doesn't do 365 USADA testing? We need to get these things clarified for you to justify your stances.






        They are both atypical and both su****ious, that's what matters.

        You deem Floyd not su****ious because USADA deemed it so but not the case when VADA deem beterbeiv not su****ious and in fact a common occurrence.

        Why do you take USADA's word as authority and not VADA? I thought you said VADA were better than USADA?

        You can't have both. Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt? Why won't you answer that?​
        ShoulderRoll

        And definitely these.

        Or are you going to avoid them and take another L?

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        • Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
          It's funny watching this every couple of years one of these power punchers come along who could beat anyone in history but they have no wins of any historical significance to back it up.

          Let's see if he can avoid getting 120-108 by bivol in his huge step up fight next before claiming he gives Roy Jones nightmares, shall we?
          a fair statement for sure!

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          • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            Provide these receipts please.

            And? He's had his case and won it and his suspension is lifted.

            He's done the due process and he's been cleared.
            How can I provide them? I don’t have the receipts.

            Benn is not completely in the clear, the appeal process is pending and not finished. If he was clear he would be able to get a license to fight in the UK.

            I’ve already addressed and answered the important points in your other questions.
            Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-21-2024, 04:48 PM.

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            • I think it is natural for people to jump the gun when a fighter has not been exposed, remember when Tyson was knocking everyone out? ...lets also not forget what happened with Roy with Tarver on this account! These days so many fighters fought Ammy so long... We can at least give Bieter somewhat of a pass on being perfect so far.

              I can't think of Roy fighting anyone quite like Bieter. But I also believe it is quite possible Roy is a different level. Who knows lol...

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              • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                How can I provide them? I don’t have the receipts.

                Benn is not completely in the clear, the appeal process is pending and not finished. If he was clear he would be able to get a license to fight in the UK.

                I’ve already addressed and answered the important points in your other questions.
                Oh you don't have them? Well you can stop saying there are receipts then can't you.

                Conor Benn had a hearing, and he won it. He's done all he can, provided evidence and his suspension was lifted.

                It's their prerogative if they want to appeal it but it doesn't change the fact he won his case.

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                • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  Ive already addressed and answered the important points in your other questions.
                  What is it like being a coward that refuses to answer questions?

                  Let's try again shall we;

                  So you'd agree that Floyd left America frequently when active also then?

                  Do you have an example of Ngannou leaving America for a training camp? I don't recall a single time that happened

                  Floyd doesn't and has never done USADA 365 testing (Unlike Ngannou who did it over over a decade)

                  Is Floyd not likely clean, since he travels and doesn't do 365 USADA testing? We need to get these things clarified for you to justify your stances.

                  You deem Floyd not su****ious because USADA deemed it so but not the case when VADA deem beterbeiv not su****ious and in fact a common occurrence.

                  Why do you take USADA's word as authority and not VADA? I thought you said VADA were better than USADA?

                  You can't have both. Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt? Why won't you answer that?


                  Will you answer these questions? Or take your L?
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 01-21-2024, 05:08 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    Beterbiev can’t be called a cheat because he didn’t test positive.

                    But he can be sad to be su****ious because of the atypically high levels of HGH and testosterone that VADA found. IronDan himself has said he finds it su****ious, so…
                    But VADA said it's not su****ious and in fact common.

                    Doesn't that mean you don't find it su****ious?

                    Unless you're saying VADA are corrupt?​

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      Oh you don't have them? Well you can stop saying there are receipts then can't you.

                      Conor Benn had a hearing, and he won it. He's done all he can, provided evidence and his suspension was lifted.

                      It's their prerogative if they want to appeal it but it doesn't change the fact he won his case.
                      Why would I stop saying that? Various sources have reported that receipts were provided.

                      Conor Benn has an appeal pending and is still not licensed to fight in the UK. So his case is not resolved. I don’t know how to make it any more clear to you than that.

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