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  • #51
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post

    If he was a Rolly, Munguia or Garcia they would be a long line ready to fight him. He passes the eyeball test and is yet unknown he if swim or drowns at the big stage.

    Like I mentioned before, he is mismanaged and should had a big time promotional company behind him, de doesn't so he doesn't get the exposure or the meaningful fights to propel him.

    I just want to see the dude fight someone with a name already.
    I repeat. No one is ducking him. Take a look at the thread above. Name the fighters who have avoided/are avoiding him. Name them. Every time someone mentions fighters who are interested in his son, Bozy immediately shoots them down. That's the problem. You mention Kava to him and he says, nah, it would do nothing for his son, etc.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by tomhawq View Post
      With 32 fights on his record, it could even be ****** to say he's avoided. It might even smarter to say he's the most fought fighter in the division based on such rate. Stanionis only got 15 fights on his record. Vergil Ortiz is going after his 21st fight. Those looks to me more like the ones being avoided.

      The number of fights a guy has is not related to whether or not he is "avoided". Any matchmaker in the world can move a guy to 30-0 with careful matchmaking. I could get your Aunt Helen to 30-0 if you wanted to spend the money. Ennis has been VERY carefully developed, with his Pops putting the kibosh on any meaningful opponents.......

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      • #53
        Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
        The number of fights a guy has is not related to whether or not he is "avoided". Any matchmaker in the world can move a guy to 30-0 with careful matchmaking. I could get your Aunt Helen to 30-0 if you wanted to spend the money. Ennis has been VERY carefully developed, with his Pops putting the kibosh on any meaningful opponents.......
        Not everybody has that kind of luxury being afforded to fight a long line of nobodies. Many lost their zeros at an early stage of their careers. It's a huge investment of time and money. Stanionis, for example, in his 16th fight is already pitted against Vergil Ortiz Jr, which is his 20th fight. He's even pitted with Ennis already...And there are many others. Why the discrepancy?

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        • #54
          I don't know what Ennis is in the ring, weight-wise but he looks bigger than Crawford, about the size of the former welter Ortiz. I still think Ennis and Ortiz will meet someday in the future, probably as middleweights.

          Crawford was to 135 what Ennis is to 147, at least that how it appears to me.

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          • #55
            At some point any fighter worth his salt would have to look for fights ACTIVELY to squash the inactivity routine. Who you approach and who you don't defines what kind of fights you are looking for. You can't just sit around hoping fights would just be handed to you without doing nothing. You still have to negotiate. He's able to secure 32 fights, I don't see any problem doing the same for his next fights.

            Even guys like Crawford who started at 135, went up to 140, then 147 had to look for fights. Benavidez Jr stepped up for Bud's 2nd run at welter, Amir Khan stepped up, Kavaliauskas, Kell Brook even at his late stage of his career. Where was Ennis, a career welterweight, all that time? He was undefeated with 26 fights, yet he was still looking for victims.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by 4truth View Post
              The mean machine would be a good test or he could man up and stop ducking Cobb
              Mean machine is 35 and Ennis should have no problem facing Kavaliauskas.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by tomhawq View Post
                Not everybody has that kind of luxury being afforded to fight a long line of nobodies. Many lost their zeros at an early stage of their careers. It's a huge investment of time and money. Stanionis, for example, in his 16th fight is already pitted against Vergil Ortiz Jr, which is his 20th fight. He's even pitted with Ennis already...And there are many others. Why the discrepancy?
                Its really the choice of the matchmaker or manager, whoever is in control of the development of the fighter. And its also dictated by budget. And some guys need more "development' than others, based on their amateur experience. In the case of Ennis, my guess is that his pops want to make sure he gets at least ONE big payday before possibly getting beat, so he is moving him VERY slowly. And he is playing that game of turning down any meaningful fight while at the same time claiming they are avoided.
                Last edited by OnePunch; 01-23-2024, 08:20 PM.

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                • #58
                  Crawford is ducking Boots

                  So much that he'd rather throw his belt in the trash bin and lose the undisputed crown, just to avoid him

                  so much that he'd rather move in weight than fight him

                  HARD QUACK

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by lopetego View Post
                    Crawford is ducking Boots

                    So much that he'd rather throw his belt in the trash bin and lose the undisputed crown, just to avoid him

                    so much that he'd rather move in weight than fight him

                    HARD QUACK

                    I feel dumber just from having read this.

                    Crawford didnt duck Boots, or anyone else. Boots was offered the Crawford fight TWICE, and both times his pops said "nahhhh, we good"

                    And as for losing the belt, he is obligated by contract to the Spence rematch. Its not up to him genius.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by tomhawq View Post

                      I repeat. No one is ducking him. Take a look at the thread above. Name the fighters who have avoided/are avoiding him. Name them. Every time someone mentions fighters who are interested in his son, Bozy immediately shoots them down. That's the problem. You mention Kava to him and he says, nah, it would do nothing for his son, etc.
                      But not fighting anybody does him well ?
                      Bozy is a fughin clown buying into his own hype
                      Mean machine would be a good fight for Boots just to see where he’s at
                      Boots would win the fight but we’d have a much better idea exactly who Boots is

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