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  • #31
    I don't think Wilder would take the fight unless he knows he can win. Parker is a sparring partner. He has never shown a champions heart. Wilder is just tougher. He will impose his will on Parker. Parker just survives for the next fight.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by steeve steel View Post

      There is absolutely no way he makes it to round 9.
      I mean Johan Duhaupas and Arthur Szpilka went deep into the rounds against a prime Wilder so I'd say Parker has some chance to make it as far against a 38 year old Wilder who's boxed one round in 2 years.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 15round View Post
        I don't think Wilder would take the fight unless he knows he can win. Parker is a sparring partner. He has never shown a champions heart. Wilder is just tougher. He will impose his will on Parker. Parker just survives for the next fight.
        You might be right about the way the fight goes.

        But at this stage of his career being 38 years old Wilder can't afford to cherry pick and slowly build back.

        He has to know it's unlikely he will ever win a title again, so he just has to take the money fights on offer and Saudi are paying him a lot to fight Parker.

        It's a calculated risk but it is a risk, I give Parker around a 30% chance of winning.
        Last edited by Atypicalbrit; 12-01-2023, 05:43 AM.
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        • #34
          I think Parker can do it. But it's not as if I don't want wilder to win. I don't want wilder v josh sabotaged

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          • #35
            Wilder is in your way? Wilder is going to terminate you Parker, because he's still the hardest puncher in the heavyweight division.
            Last edited by Boricua181; 12-01-2023, 06:15 AM.

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            • #36
              This is an interesting fight. Parker is good, has a decent chin, is younger, and is fairly mobile. Wilder has height and reach advantage and a killer right hand but is also older, less skilled, and has been out of the ring for a long time. Wilder's defense ain't that great either and ring rust is a thing and can play a crucial role here.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                I was curious about this, because the Wilder hate tends to lead to some false narratives.

                Turns out, of his 43 fights that didn't involve Fury, he's only ever been behind on the cards at the time of winning the fight by stoppage one time, in the second fight against Ortiz. He was tied on two cards and ahead on the other at the time of stoppage in the Washington fight. Every other fight that didn't involve Tyson Fury, he either won on points, or was winning on points at the time he knocked them out.

                I don't think he's a particularly skilled guy, but you generally don't have to be in the modern heavyweight division, and while he's technically deficient in many ways, he's very good at setting up that right hand, and since that scores the knockdown when he does, chances are he's going to be ahead on points.
                Who's hating? it's just the reality, Wilder has always had favourable treatment, his lack of mandatories during his reign, the questionable scorecards despite winning by KO the majority of his career and the cans he fought his whole career emphasises that.

                Do you really believe he was outboxing Szpilka or Washington for example to be up on the cards at the time of the stoppage!? If so the "hate" narrative could just be flipped to a fangirl narrative tbh.

                P.S Also I did say for large portions of fights, the implication wasn't that he's never able to box his way to victory or that he can't, it's just clearly not his forte.
                Last edited by Boro; 12-01-2023, 09:09 AM. Reason: P.S

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                • #38
                  To be honest; This is a risky fight for both fighters. Parker could box, has a granite chin and decent punching power. However, he is not that hard to find and is very easy to hit. That could become his undoing.

                  Now on the other hand; While Wilder's boxing skills are poor and perhaps he no longer has the same chin or punch resistance he once had and yet he still has that equalizer and Parker is going to taste that power sooner than later.

                  Which is why I am leaning towards Deontay Wilder to win this fight.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Boro View Post

                    Who's hating? it's just the reality, Wilder has always had favourable treatment, his lack of mandatories during his reign, the questionable scorecards despite winning by KO the majority of his career and the cans he fought his whole career emphasises that.

                    Do you really believe he was outboxing Szpilka or Washington for example to be up on the cards at the time of the stoppage!? If so the "hate" narrative could just be flipped to a fangirl narrative tbh.

                    P.S Also I did say for large portions of fights, the implication wasn't that he's never able to box his way to victory or that he can't, it's just clearly not his forte.
                    I specifically mentioned Washington as an example of the 2 out of 43 fights that he wasn't up on the cards. You're a worse cherry picker than him to bring that up.

                    You're missing two fundamental points. One is that he's very good at knocking people down (and out). Everyone he's ever faced has tasted the canvas. That's an automatic 10-8 for him no matter how the rest of the rounds goes, the way boxing is scored currently, favorable judging or not. So he can win essentially two rounds in one punch. That's going to translate to being up on the cards.

                    The second is that the REALITY, to use your own word, is that he's going to get that A-side nod more often than not, especially because boxing is heavily about landing the best punches, and he's got that in spades. So even if he's getting out boxed for large portions of the fight, he only needs to get it right for one moment to win the round or the fight. That means your criticism is largely irrelevant. He can get schooled for most of the fight, and equalize with several knockdowns. And he keeps that power through 12 rounds and when hurt.

                    The REALITY is that it's actually extremely rare for him to be down on points. Is he a poor technical boxer? Sure. But the majority of heavyweights are, and have been historically. Technical skill goes down as weight goes up. So why do you care? Doesn't matter to the end result.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                      I mean Johan Duhaupas and Arthur Szpilka went deep into the rounds against a prime Wilder so I'd say Parker has some chance to make it as far against a 38 year old Wilder who's boxed one round in 2 years.
                      This is boxing, so yes, he has some chance, but not much. I personally wouldn't bet on it. Would you?

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