If Canelo Beats Beanvidez he's clearly the best 168 of all time

[just the facts]

Hahaajaj hello Noo Wards best win at 168 was a robbery plain n simple.

Trey Shaw, we’re still waiting for you to explain how Ward beating Froch was a robbery. Or are you willing to admit that you made this post with racist motives as all your other posts are.

[MONGOOSE66]

Ok but Hopkins has never fought at 168 so how could you possibly rank him ahead of Canelo at 168?

Second point, again makes no sense. If that’s the standard for “whipped” then Hopkins got whipped twice by Jermain Taylor, amongst others.

When Hopkins fought Taylor he was FORTY. So………..
He fought professionally for another ELEVEN YEARS. That in itself was amazing.

[IronDanHamza]

When Hopkins fought Taylor he was FORTY. So………..
He fought professionally for another ELEVEN YEARS. That in itself was amazing.

And?

He hasn’t even left Middleweight at that point and you’re saying he should be ranked ahead of Canelo at Super Middleweight?

There is zero logic to your argument.

[MONGOOSE66]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;n32096032

He hasn’t even left Middleweight at that point and you’re saying he should be ranked ahead of Canelo at Super Middleweight?

There is zero logic to your argument.[/QUOTE]


And??? I don’t work off what people spoon feed me like you. I make the judgment myself. Hopkins never had an amateur career.
He lost his first fight and at the point he met Taylor was 46:2. Second loss was RJJ. That’s great to me. I think prime RJJ and Calzaghe are better though.

[Slicc]

Carl Froch would beat every single Middle to Super Middle Weight fighter that Alvarez has fought in his career

In front of 80,000 in Wembley Stadium.

[IronDanHamza]

And??? I don’t work off what people spoon feed me like you. I make the judgment myself. Hopkins never had an amateur career.
He lost his first fight and at the point he met Taylor was 46:2. Second loss was RJJ. That’s great to me. I think prime RJJ and Calzaghe are better though.

Yes, as in, what is your point?

You are using loss’s against Canelo but are making excuses for Hopkins losing twice to Jermain Taylor. It works both ways.

It’s irrelevant what you think is great or not. Hopkins never even fought at Super Middleweight so how could anyone with any ounce of logic possibly rank him ahead of Canelo at that weight?

[ramses07]

He lost to Golovkin twice. Vegas robbed Golovkin. I think that really hurts his claim to be a top 20 let alone the very best.

look man this gets so annoying, I get it, he should've lost to GGG the firs time, but the second time could've gone either way.

Not every fight that's super close is a robbery. faking' hurts the sport when ppl propagate this ******ity

[Cypocryphy]

look man this gets so annoying, I get it, he should've lost to GGG the firs time, but the second time could've gone either way.

Not every fight that's super close is a robbery. faking' hurts the sport when ppl propagate this ******ity

It really couldn't have gone either way. Don't me bring up how ringside media scored the fight. I have that saved on a note, so I can easily post it on here. A robbery is when there's a clear winner, and the consensus is that Glolovkin clearly won.

Actually, you know what, I have something for you. A thread on here that was made a little while ago. I think you'll find it illuminating. The link is here. You might just find it interesting because it demonstrates a new technology superior to what's being used today, and it will be used next year.

[MONGOOSE66]

Yes, as in, what is your point?

You are using loss’s against Canelo but are making excuses for Hopkins losing twice to Jermain Taylor. It works both ways.

It’s irrelevant what you think is great or not. Hopkins never even fought at Super Middleweight so how could anyone with any ounce of logic possibly rank him ahead of Canelo at that weight?

Seems to me your blinded by your ego.

[IronDanHamza]

Seems to me you’re blinded by your ego.

I.e You can’t respond to anything dis*****g your illogical position.

Hopkins never fought at Super Middleweight…

How could you possibly rank him ahead of Canelo at Super Middleweight considering that fact?