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  • #51
    Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

    Therefore he's the greatest?
    Greatest at that moment , yes
    He beat the #1 man to be the man
    Who’s better at that moment ?

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    • #52
      Roy and Ward both 12-0 Canelo at 168.

      I think Toney probably beats him too.

      I think he’d possibly have beaten Calzaghe.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

        Ya I disagree. I think Benavidez is a significantly better fighter than anyone Froch beat from a talent standpoint. Resume wise maybe not because Canelo came in the division so the big names fought Canelo instead
        So you think Benavidez skill for skill is a more talented fighter than Mikkel Kessler? Kessler is a better boxer skill for skill.

        Jean Pascal at his peak is a better fighter than Benavidez skill for skill.

        Alvarez is a great fighter, but if you really analyse his career 'Alvarez cannot be a considered a all-time great fighter in any specific weight class, what makes Alvarez great is his entire career combined'.

        Note: And Alvarez has benefited from competing in a under par Middle to Super Middle Weight era 'This is not Alvarez's fault, a fighter can only compete and fight against the fighters who are around within his era' etc.




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        • #54
          If we’re talking purely resume, Ward for me.

          Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Bika, Dawson, Green, Miranda, Rodriguez.
          MikeyMike100 MikeyMike100 likes this.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

            Greatest at that moment , yes
            He beat the #1 man to be the man
            Who’s better at that moment ?
            We are talking about greatest of all time

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            • #56
              Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

              We are talking about greatest of all time
              In that case , there’s no fughin way Canelo is the greatest of all time
              Not even close to it

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              • #57
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                Roy and Ward both 12-0 Canelo at 168.

                I think Toney probably beats him too.

                I think he’d possibly have beaten Calzaghe.
                We're not talking about head to head, we are talking about resume and accomplishments

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                  So you think Benavidez skill for skill is a more talented fighter than Mikkel Kessler? Kessler is a better boxer skill for skill.



                  Jean Pascal at his peak is a better fighter than Benavidez skill for skill.



                  Alvarez is a great fighter, but if you really analyse his career 'Alvarez cannot be a considered a all-time great fighter in any specific weight class, what makes Alvarez great is his entire career combined'.

                  Note: And Alvarez has benefited from competing in a under par Middle to Super Middle Weight era 'This is not Alvarez's fault, a fighter can only compete and fight against the fighters who are around within his era' etc.



                  Yes, only thing Kessler has on him is footwork. Benavidez is more skilled than people credit him with. Hard jab, knowing how to use high guard defense, punch selection, inside fighting, punch placement are all skills.

                  The Pascal part is just ridiculous

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                  • #59
                    If Nell beats him it would be special win as everyone calling Nell to fight him and that he's putting it off

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
                      who has Benavidez even beat? doodoo?



                      what has doodoo done at SMW?
                      yea I don't get this claim

                      if Benavidez wins its elevates him massively into being a star but if Canelo wins ppl will say Benavidez was all hype

                      a win for nelo won't be worth much at all

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