If Canelo Beats Beanvidez he's clearly the best 168 of all time

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  • Clegg
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    #111
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Does Roy’s one win over Toney surpass Canelo’s body of work though? I don’t think so myself.

    It’s the best single win, sure. But we can say that about so many guys.

    Ruben Carter’s win over Emile Griffith is better than any single win Hagler had, or Hopkins had, or Golovkin had.

    I think Canelo has to be ranked ahead of Roy Jones at 168 historically, surely. Unless were factoring in H2H scenario, then that changes it.
    Yeah that's fair enough. Hard to say what Roy's 2nd best win at the weight even is, looking on boxrec I would say Malinga, who I'd rate below Smith/BJS/Plant.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #112
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Well, we don’t know if he would or wouldn’t because it never happened. You are delving into fantasy what if’s and not what actually transpired.

      You’re asking if Pacquaio would have been good at Featherweight or not if he skipped it. Well he DIDN’T skip it so we don’t need to speculate.

      A more appropriate (illogical) comparison would be ranking Pacquaio at Bantamweight ahead of Jofre, Olivares, Ortiz, Panama Al Brown, Harada, Escobar etc despite the fact he NEVER fought at that weight. Would you do that too?

      How could you possibly rank someone at a weight class that never fought at that weight class? How could that logically make sense in your brain?

      Why stop at Hopkins over Canelo? Why not Monzon? Robinson? Hagler? Hell why stop there? Why not Mayweather? Mike Tyson? Let’s just rank anyone who’s never fought there aswell.

      Hopkins never fought at that weight class, ******, You can’t rank him there historically above people like Canelo that not only fought there, became undisputed there and essentially cleaned the whole division out.
      Your deductions skills are breath taking LOL.

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      • elfag
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        #113
        OP forgetting RJJ and Calzaghe fought at 168? how would they do with cement feet canelo? the only mover he had was Saunders who was a dollar store version of those guys

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #114
          Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

          Your deductions skills are breath taking LOL.
          Why don’t you just address the actual point instead of deflecting and avoiding them?

          How do you go about logically ranking a fighter in a weight class, he hasn’t ever fought in?

          If you can rank Hopkins above Canelo at Super Middleweight, why not **** Tiger above Canelo? Why not Carlos Monzon? Why not Billy Conn? Why stop at Hopkins? Why don’t we just rank anyone who’s never fought there aswell?

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          • Cypocryphy
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            #115
            Originally posted by ramses07

            Ok bud, I’ve seen the comments, just like I’ve the seen the JMM vs Pac-Man comments amongst other supposed robberies

            you realized that’s like what max 100-1000 ppl? Again you’re working against millions and millions of casual ppl who think Canelo got the W when they read it on boxrec/wiki

            Good luck man
            Did you click the link that I gave you? I don't think you have, have you?

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            • lizard_man
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              #116
              Canelo whoops all those euro bums on wards resume. As we all have seen, White euro bums are never as good as A level American or Mexican fighters.


              Ward vs canelo was the fight to make.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #117
                Some of y'all like lil kids with this best whatever of all time sh^t.

                1)Who gives a fook
                2)You can't prove any of this type of sh^t

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                • boogbx
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                  #118
                  Not the best but definitely in the discussion. Roy Jones at 168 is a god amongst men.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Some of y'all like lil kids with this best whatever of all time sh^t.

                    1)Who gives a fook
                    2)You can't prove any of this type of sh^t
                    1) People who post on this kind of website
                    2) You can’t prove it, but you can debate it. Kind of the entire point of internet forums.

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                    • Zaroku
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                      #120
                      Yeah bro I love watching Mexicansb boxers bear waxhorjwe up
                      my Bro n law is from Guadalajara and he’s a lawyer l bish

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