mayweather thinks hes on Oscars level? well hes not

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  • Zarco
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    #31
    Originally posted by DLT
    People so underestimate what Floyd does. The man just set the PPV record with Oscar. Oscar didnt do that by himself. He's fought a ton of big names and Floyd shattered what he did with those other guys. Then fools on here brag about Hatton because he has fans in the UK but what does that have to do with the US? No one in the US knew Hatton. NO one and Floyd did 850,000 but people still didnt want to give him the credit. Then he fights JMM who has no name and has never did any kind of numbers. Everyone said the fight would fail and he did a mil. Stop acting like he isnt that big or isnt Oscar. He is now wether you want to admit it or not. Even alot of Floyd fans cant bring themselves to say it but the numbers dont lie
    the mayweather-marquez fight was aaalll over spanish chanels, guess why? this fight didnt see this much attention in the english media. marquez was involved in the highest ppv fight below welter before pac-hatton, that did 400k. before mayweather received the golden touch by beating oscar, he never reached 400k.
    so give marquez credit for the 1 milli.

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      #32
      Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
      No I think your the one thats ******! Oscar never had to try so hard to convince people he was a star like Floyd has to do. Oscar was a star all on his own without even trying. Oscar did't have to be one of the most skilled because he was'nt but he still sold more then Floyd could ever dream of. Oscar was never disliked but mainstream fans. I'm not ***** or nothing but oscar also had Ricky Martin type of looks and was always polite. Even at this point Oscar does'nt even fight anymore but he probably still pulls in more on a daily basis than Floyd does. Floyd will never be Oscar no matter how hard he tries. It's funny how Floyd will talk **** about Oscar but in reality Oscar is his idol and he looks up to Oscar. Floyd just did a mil with JMM because of Oscar and GBP. Don't forget Marquez is also responsible for some of those #'s.
      Good point.

      Lets not forget this tidbit either,

      DLH never needed a 24/7 or sell a fight in theaters to crack the majestic million mark.

      All Oscar ever needed was his name.

      Floyd needs gimmicks.

      That is the difference.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DLT
        The point is it doesnt matter. The show isnt about HBO. Its about Floyd and the opponent. The show could be on ABC for all that matters or Showtime. HBO isnt the king of everything. HBO has a ton of good shows on it but guess what? So does Showtime. He could do it on there or ESPN or anything. The guy puts up big numbers even when he's on WWE every time and he can go on ESPN anytime he wants. He was just on CNBC today, he was on dancing with the stars, he was on a fighting show on BET, the camera shows him when he's at an NBA game, and so on. Dont act like its just HBO. Floyd is doing things. He has a name
        But they're the king of Boxing networks, which is Floyd's biggest business venture at the end of the day.

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          #34
          Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
          No I think your the one thats ******! Oscar never had to try so hard to convince people he was a star like Floyd has to do. Oscar was a star all on his own without even trying. Oscar did't have to be one of the most skilled because he was'nt but he still sold more then Floyd could ever dream of. Oscar was never disliked but mainstream fans. I'm not ***** or nothing but oscar also had Ricky Martin type of looks and was always polite. Even at this point Oscar does'nt even fight anymore but he probably still pulls in more on a daily basis than Floyd does. Floyd will never be Oscar no matter how hard he tries. It's funny how Floyd will talk **** about Oscar but in reality Oscar is his idol and he looks up to Oscar. Floyd just did a mil with JMM because of Oscar and GBP. Don't forget Marquez is also responsible for some of those #'s.
          +1.....

          i dont know how many interviews i heard where floyd bragged about how he was on dancing with the stars, wwe, and at&t commercial. de la hoya is retired and he was chosen for abc's shaq vs.

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            #35
            Originally posted by RL_GMA
            That's not true bro...

            Longevity does count because it creates a track record of your business. Oscar fought all those guys and each of those fights were big, and for the most part were promoted by him (post the Trinidad fight). Floyd has yet to throw a PPV under his stable and his alone, hence why I say it's still too early to compare Oscar and Floyd's selling point right now. In a few years it could be a different story.
            Oscar had Arum for most of all those PPV's and Floyd's team was the lead promoter for the JMM fight. Even GBP and other haters admitted that but now they want to take it back after they found out how good the fight did

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              #36
              Originally posted by DLT
              Thats the dumbest thing of all time. You act like Floyd wants to act just like Oscar. He doesnt. It doesnt matter how you get the numbers, all that matters is that you get the numbers. Sometimes its better to be hated than loved because people want to pay to see you lose. No one says there doing it the same. Trust me, Floyd doesnt want to be like Oscar. He just wants to do Oscar numbers and he's doing it and maybe even surpassing him
              Your an idiot and you don't understand simple logic. I'll try this again. I never said he wants to act like Oscar. I was replying to someone that said he did. He wants to be star like Oscar is what I meant. It's clear as day what I meant but your the only ****** one to mix up what I was saying.

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                #37
                Originally posted by DLT
                Oscar had Arum for most of all those PPV's and Floyd's team was the lead promoter for the JMM fight. Even GBP and other haters admitted that but now they want to take it back after they found out how good the fight did
                Floyd had Arum too and what happened?






                Nothing aka Floyd is a product of marketing.


                DLH is a genuine star without it.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tom Flores
                  Good point.

                  Lets not forget this tidbit either,

                  DLH never needed a 24/7 or sell a fight in theaters to crack the majestic million mark.

                  All Oscar ever needed was his name.

                  Floyd needs gimmicks.

                  That is the difference.
                  so what. You guys act like that makes Oscar special. Why? Because he really didnt have to work for anything? Oscar was also half Mexican which is a big help with this stuff and he was dubbed the Golden Boy from day 1 and marketed that way. Floyd had to work his way up. Thats why during the negotiations for the rematch, Floyd was one of the only few to tell Oscar to shove it because Floyd knew that he could do numbers without Oscar. Ask Shane how that is working out for him

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                    Your an idiot and you don't understand simple logic. I'll try this again. I never said he wants to act like Oscar. I was replying to someone that said he did. He wants to be star like Oscar is what I meant. It's clear as day what I meant but your the only ****** one to mix up what I was saying.
                    IM not mixing up what your saying. Im saying that he doesnt want to act like Oscar and that he is a star like Oscar, fool. Youre the one who doesnt get it. He is that star.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      Oscar had Arum for most of all those PPV's and Floyd's team was the lead promoter for the JMM fight. Even GBP and other haters admitted that but now they want to take it back after they found out how good the fight did
                      no they were not. thats just one of the ways golden boy was able to get the fight for jmm. mayweather promotions does not even exist. floyd accepted this fight with one of the conditions being that he gets to showcase his developing promotional company.

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