mayweather thinks hes on Oscars level? well hes not

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  • xAUGUSTUSx
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    #21
    Originally posted by DLT
    People so underestimate what Floyd does. The man just set the PPV record with Oscar. Oscar didnt do that by himself. He's fought a ton of big names and Floyd shattered what he did with those other guys. Then fools on here brag about Hatton because he has fans in the UK but what does that have to do with the US? No one in the US knew Hatton. NO one and Floyd did 850,000 but people still didnt want to give him the credit. Then he fights JMM who has no name and has never did any kind of numbers. Everyone said the fight would fail and he did a mil. Stop acting like he isnt that big or isnt Oscar. He is now wether you want to admit it or not. Even alot of Floyd fans cant bring themselves to say it but the numbers dont lie
    Oscar did do that by himself. That was one of the only times ever that Oscar had alot mexicans behind him. Everyone forgets about Oscar beating Mayorga in impressive fashion and that created the illusion that he might have a chance against Floyd. all the people who followed Oscar his whole life all tuned in to see if he could beat the man considered the best. Also Oscar was training with Mayweather sr. and senior kept telling the media that he could train Oscar to beat his son because he knew how to beat his son. That created this illusion even to hardcore fans that Oscar had a solid chance to win. Then the fight got made and Floyd sr said he would'nt train Oscar to fight his son. People tuned into that fight to see Oscar not Floyd. More money is spent on Floyd to convince people that he's some money maker than what he actually brings in.

    The last part I was being a little sarcatic. Obviously he's bringing in some cash or else GBP and HBO would'nt be trying so hard to convince people that Money Mayweather is exacly that. Pacquiao's right up there with him and he never had to give himself some WWE persona to do so.

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      #22
      Originally posted by RL_GMA
      Floyd's 24/7 segments are more entertaining than ones that don't involve him, it's naive to think that he doesn't attract viewers. But HBO at the end of the day have the final say because they're the actual network putting out the product. You don't think there's footage they shoot that doesn't make the show? It's not as if Floyd is the executive producer of the show, he's simply the star.

      I give Floyd credit for a lot of things, but some of you guys just go a bit overboard and think he literally has the final say in everything. If that were the case the title would be "Floyd Mayweather Presents: 24/7", and obviously that's not the case.
      The point is it doesnt matter. The show isnt about HBO. Its about Floyd and the opponent. The show could be on ABC for all that matters or Showtime. HBO isnt the king of everything. HBO has a ton of good shows on it but guess what? So does Showtime. He could do it on there or ESPN or anything. The guy puts up big numbers even when he's on WWE every time and he can go on ESPN anytime he wants. He was just on CNBC today, he was on dancing with the stars, he was on a fighting show on BET, the camera shows him when he's at an NBA game, and so on. Dont act like its just HBO. Floyd is doing things. He has a name

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        #23
        Originally posted by DLT
        1st of all, even HBO admits that it was Floyds ideal to have the 24/7 so he should get the credit if that is the case. 2nd, shows get cancled all the time. You have to have someone to sell the 24/7 and Floyd does that better than anyone. Again, it doesnt matter how you get the numbers, it just matters that you get them. Stop trying to do everything to say that its not Floyd. Thats all people want to do. 1st when they thought the fight would bomb, everyone put it all on Floyd. Everyone said this fight will prove if Floyd is really a draw or not and its going to bomb. Now that it did crazy numbers, everyone wants to try to downplay it like it wasnt Floyd after the whole time they said this PPV was all on Floyd. Give the man his due sometimes
        You did not answer my question. And, I don't even think you read my post. I said Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing. Why sticking up for Floyd and not Pac? The same question I asked about Floyd, I also asked about Pac. I mean numbers don't lie right? Pac numbers without 24/7? Now compare that with 24/7? Same thing with Floyd bro. All I am saying is look at the numbers. Remember the hype that Oscar-Trinidad had? If you add a 24/7 into that. Could they possibly do more than 2.4mill? What about Oscar-Vargas and the hatred that was there. If they had a 24/7 could they possibly do close to 2mil? Oscar-Hopkins and with B-Hop trash talk with a 24/7 could it of done over 1.5mil? Same thing with Oscar-Mayorga and Mayorga trash talk. If they had 24/7. Would it of done more than 1.25mil?

        Take Pac-Oscar fight if there was no 24/7. Would it of still done 1.25mil? What about Pac-Hatton. If there is no 24/7 will they have still done the same numbers?

        If there was no 24/7 for the world awaits. Would it of still done 2.4mill? floyd-JMM no 24/7 would it of still done a mil? Floyd-Hatton would they stiill have done the same numbers?

        Is a yes or no question really. Is it the fighter or is the show? Again Men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie. Look at all this PPV numbers with 24/7? Now compare that without 24/7? Don't be so sensitive bro is just a question.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DLT
          People so underestimate what Floyd does. The man just set the PPV record with Oscar. Oscar didnt do that by himself. He's fought a ton of big names and Floyd shattered what he did with those other guys. Then fools on here brag about Hatton because he has fans in the UK but what does that have to do with the US? No one in the US knew Hatton. NO one and Floyd did 850,000 but people still didnt want to give him the credit. Then he fights JMM who has no name and has never did any kind of numbers. Everyone said the fight would fail and he did a mil. Stop acting like he isnt that big or isnt Oscar. He is now wether you want to admit it or not. Even alot of Floyd fans cant bring themselves to say it but the numbers dont lie
          The whole Hatton remark makes you look ******. People tuned into that fight to watch Hatton win. Since when was PPV only in the US. That was 850 000 total buys clown. That means around the world.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Spacey1991
            I wouldn't say he is as big of a draw as Oscar, but him and Pacquiao are the closest to being since DLH left.
            yea but we all have ask our selves: because of who?

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              #26
              Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
              Vargas was too green... they rushed him too fast.. such a shame
              Whatever you say that still was a prime Vargas. Vargas at Vargas's best means he was in his prime you ****in idiot.

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                #27
                Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                Oscar did do that by himself. That was one of the only times ever that Oscar had alot mexicans behind him. Everyone forgets about Oscar beating Mayorga in impressive fashion and that created the illusion that he might have a chance against Floyd. all the people who followed Oscar his whole life all tuned in to see if he could beat the man considered the best. Also Oscar was training with Mayweather sr. and senior kept telling the media that he could train Oscar to beat his son because he knew how to beat his son. That created this illusion even to hardcore fans that Oscar had a solid chance to win. Then the fight got made and Floyd sr said he would'nt train Oscar to fight his son. People tuned into that fight to see Oscar not Floyd. More money is spent on Floyd to convince people that he's some money maker than what he actually brings in.

                The last part I was being a little sarcatic. Obviously he's bringing in some cash or else GBP and HBO would'nt be trying so hard to convince people that Money Mayweather is exacly that. Pacquiao's right up there with him and he never had to give himself some WWE persona to do so.
                You act like I said that Oscar is a nobody and Floyd did it by himself. Im not downing Oscar. Im just saying that Floyd was on equal ground with him. I dont think everything you said was true regarding the fight but lets just say it was. You start every sentence with Oscar but you ended every sentence with Floyd. Everything you said was about people wanting to see if Oscar can beat Floyd. How can you look at that like its just Oscar? I mean, alot of Mexicans also paid to see if JMM can beat Floyd. Alot of people from Ghana will pay to see if Clottey can beat Floyd. You can say that about any fight but you have to give that man credit then if people are paying to see him get beat

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                  The whole Hatton remark makes you look ******. People tuned into that fight to watch Hatton win. Since when was PPV only in the US. That was 850 000 total buys clown. That means around the world.
                  IT was not total buys, idiot. Thats the US numbers. Please dont talk if you dont know what youre talking about. Its just like Floyd-JMM did 1mil in the US

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx
                    Whatever you say that still was a prime Vargas. Vargas at Vargas's best means he was in his prime you ****in idiot.
                    I disagree with you. And, ain't no need to be insulting. Punchingbag was right. Vargas was not in his prime. Vargas was never the same after Tito. Tito ruined him and then Oscar just finished him off.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      yeah but thats not the question. He's just saying that Floyd is not Oscar and he is. You dont judge that by longevity. You judge that by what he can do in one fight and he puts up the numbers, bottom line. Now if his next fight bombs then you can say that he wasnt Oscar and that Oscar did it over the long haul but for right now at this very moment, Floyd is Oscar. He can do numbers easily with anyone and if he fights Shane then he's going to do a mil. He's going to have better numbers than Oscar at his height.
                      That's not true bro...

                      Longevity does count because it creates a track record of your business. Oscar fought all those guys and each of those fights were big, and for the most part were promoted by him (post the Trinidad fight). Floyd has yet to throw a PPV under his stable and his alone, hence why I say it's still too early to compare Oscar and Floyd's selling point right now. In a few years it could be a different story.

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