mayweather thinks hes on Oscars level? well hes not

[da chosen 1]

floyd is somewhat different then de la hoya in that floyd thrives on creating controversy and ill will, while oscar paid to keep his image squeeky clean at all costs. They appeal to different markets oscar brought in a lot of women, floyd brings in people that hate him.

I would say they are pretty close at this point, if floyd is not oscar's equal he is only a half step behind.

i can some what agree whit you, isee what u saying

[DLT]

Oscar has longevity at that level. To be fair to Floyd, he's just beginning his reign.

Oscar's PPV fights during his reign as PPV king were actually against top prime guys:

Vargas
Mosley (2xs)
Hopkins
Trinidad
Mayweather

Floyd's biggest PPVs were:

Oscar
Hatton
Marquez

Not necessarily the cream of the crop, but like I said, to be fair...if Floyd fights Pac, Mosley, and or Cotto or maybe all three at some point, then the comparison can be paralleled. Also keep in mind Oscar had a lot to do with all 3 of those fights. We have yet to see a big Mayweather PPV without GBP being involved.

yeah but thats not the question. He's just saying that Floyd is not Oscar and he is. You dont judge that by longevity. You judge that by what he can do in one fight and he puts up the numbers, bottom line. Now if his next fight bombs then you can say that he wasnt Oscar and that Oscar did it over the long haul but for right now at this very moment, Floyd is Oscar. He can do numbers easily with anyone and if he fights Shane then he's going to do a mil. He's going to have better numbers than Oscar at his height.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

Are you ******? Floyd just did a mil with JMM. You think he cant do a mil with Mosley? He's every bit as big of a PPV guy as Oscar is now wether you people want to admit it or not. The numbers dont like.

No I think your the one thats ******! Oscar never had to try so hard to convince people he was a star like Floyd has to do. Oscar was a star all on his own without even trying. Oscar did't have to be one of the most skilled because he was'nt but he still sold more then Floyd could ever dream of. Oscar was never disliked but mainstream fans. I'm not ***** or nothing but oscar also had Ricky Martin type of looks and was always polite. Even at this point Oscar does'nt even fight anymore but he probably still pulls in more on a daily basis than Floyd does. Floyd will never be Oscar no matter how hard he tries. It's funny how Floyd will talk **** about Oscar but in reality Oscar is his idol and he looks up to Oscar. Floyd just did a mil with JMM because of Oscar and GBP. Don't forget Marquez is also responsible for some of those #'s.

[Kevin Jesus]

$300Million generated in three fights, what more do you want?

[jrosales13]

I have a question for everybody who says numbers don't lie. Now before I asked this question I want to state that I believe Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing right now. I am not 100% sure that he is like some of you are. But, I believe he is. Now that I got that out of the way.

Is it Floyd who is the draw the PPV king or is it 24/7? Look at Floyd numbers without 24/7? Now look at Floyd numbers with 24/7?

Even people who think Pac is the draw. Look at Pac numbers withouth 24/7? Now look at Pac numbers with 24/7?

What kind of numbers would Oscar fights against Vargas, Mayorga, Hopkins, and Trinidad numbers if they had a 24/7?

Next year the Jones-Hopkins fight will be on PPV. If they don't have a 24/7 what kinda numbers woud they get? What if they do have a 24/7?

Everybody is predicting that Pac-Mayweather will do over 3mil PPV sales. Would they still do those numbers if they didn't have a 24/7?

So my question basically is. Is the fighter who is the draw the PPV king, Or is it 24/7? Can the fighter do the same PPV numbers without 24/7?

Now for all you Floyd and Pac nuthuggers, I believe Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing and I also believe Pac is a huge draw. So don't get offended with the question. I am just interested to see if you guys believe that they can do the same numbers without 24/7?

[RL_GMA]

You said prime?

I mean, what do you define as prime? Vargas had lost to Tito prior, as Oscar did too. Vargas was looked at as the stronger fighter who's weight class was 154. Vargas gave Oscar trouble in the beginning of their fight and landed hard shots on Oscar. Oscar overall was just the better boxer, but it wasn't because Vargas was a shot fighter.

The problem with some people is they believe once a fighter loses that they're past their prime. How many people said that to Ray Leonard when he took his 1st L against Duran? A fighter could reach his peak, but he could stay at his peak for years before they start going downhill. Like I always say, people write off fighters way too quick these days...I mean, look at the Cotto vs Pacquiao situation lol.

[DLT]

No I think your the one thats ******! Oscar never had to try so hard to convince people he was a star like Floyd has to do. Oscar was star all on his own without even trying. Oscar did't have to be one of the most skilled because he was'nt but he still sold more then Floyd could ever dream of. Oscar was never disliked but mainstream fans. I'm not ***** or nothing but oscar also had Ricky Martin type of looks and was always polite. Even at this point Oscar does'nt even fight anymore but he probably still pulls in more on a daily basis than Floyd does. Floyd will never be Oscar no matter how hard he tries. It's funny how Floyd will talk **** about Oscar but in reality Oscar is his idol and he looks up to Oscar. Floyd just did a mil with JMM because of Oscar and GBP. Don't forget Marquez is also responsible for some of those #'s.

Thats the dumbest thing of all time. You act like Floyd wants to act just like Oscar. He doesnt. It doesnt matter how you get the numbers, all that matters is that you get the numbers. Sometimes its better to be hated than loved because people want to pay to see you lose. No one says there doing it the same. Trust me, Floyd doesnt want to be like Oscar. He just wants to do Oscar numbers and he's doing it and maybe even surpassing him

[DLT]

I have a question for everybody who says numbers don't lie. Now before I asked this question I want to state that I believe Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing right now. I am not 100% sure that he is like some of you are. But, I believe he is. Now that I got that out of the way.

Is it Floyd who is the draw the PPV king or is it 24/7? Look at Floyd numbers without 24/7? Now look at Floyd numbers with 24/7?

Even people who think Pac is the draw. Look at Pac numbers withouth 24/7? Now look at Pac numbers with 24/7?

What kind of numbers would Oscar fights against Vargas, Mayorga, Hopkins, and Trinidad numbers if they had a 24/7?

Next year the Jones-Hopkins fight will be on PPV. If they don't have a 24/7 what kinda numbers woud they get? What if they do have a 24/7?

Everybody is predicting that Pac-Mayweather will do over 3mil PPV sales. Would they still do those numbers if they didn't have a 24/7?

So my question basically is. Is the fighter who is the draw the PPV king, Or is it 24/7? Can the fighter do the same PPV numbers without 24/7?

Now for all you Floyd and Pac nuthuggers, I believe Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing and I also believe Pac is a huge draw. So don't get offended with the question. I am just interested to see if you guys believe that they can do the same numbers without 24/7?

1st of all, even HBO admits that it was Floyds ideal to have the 24/7 so he should get the credit if that is the case. 2nd, shows get cancled all the time. You have to have someone to sell the 24/7 and Floyd does that better than anyone. Again, it doesnt matter how you get the numbers, it just matters that you get them. Stop trying to do everything to say that its not Floyd. Thats all people want to do. 1st when they thought the fight would bomb, everyone put it all on Floyd. Everyone said this fight will prove if Floyd is really a draw or not and its going to bomb. Now that it did crazy numbers, everyone wants to try to downplay it like it wasnt Floyd after the whole time they said this PPV was all on Floyd. Give the man his due sometimes

[catalinul]

You're right.

He's over Oscar's level by some considerable margin.

[RL_GMA]

1st of all, even HBO admits that it was Floyds ideal to have the 24/7 so he should get the credit if that is the case. 2nd, shows get cancled all the time. You have to have someone to sell the 24/7 and Floyd does that better than anyone. Again, it doesnt matter how you get the numbers, it just matters that you get them. Stop trying to do everything to say that its not Floyd. Thats all people want to do. 1st when they thought the fight would bomb, everyone put it all on Floyd. Everyone said this fight will prove if Floyd is really a draw or not and its going to bomb. Now that it did crazy numbers, everyone wants to try to downplay it like it wasnt Floyd after the whole time they said this PPV was all on Floyd. Give the man his due sometimes

Floyd's 24/7 segments are more entertaining than ones that don't involve him, it's naive to think that he doesn't attract viewers. But HBO at the end of the day have the final say because they're the actual network putting out the product. You don't think there's footage they shoot that doesn't make the show? It's not as if Floyd is the executive producer of the show, he's simply the star.

I give Floyd credit for a lot of things, but some of you guys just go a bit overboard and think he literally has the final say in everything. If that were the case the title would be "Floyd Mayweather Presents: 24/7", and obviously that's not the case.