What Is A Robbery? Devin Haney - Vasyl Lomachenko Scored By Unbaised Artificial Intelligence.

[hhh1200]

Heard he got robbed against Lopez even though he literally ran half the fight and waited for Teo to punch himself out chasing him.

[tomhawq]

Lomachenko can be funny sometimes.

[The D3vil]

The only one who's invested is you who keeps replying to this thread, repeating yourself over and over again. It's obvious now that your turban is on that puny little head of yours too tightly. It really eats you up inside that everyone knows that Haney lost, and when people do videos on it, it just supports what the vast majority of viewers saw that night, that Loma was robbed. That's actually not the main point of this thread. It's understood that he was robbed. The point was to show how accurate the AI is in judging this fight and that it should be used in all fights.

And because you're a dumbass (oh yes you are), I will explain to you one more time. This has already been tested for years in amateur matches, whereby they use a multitude a video feeds to capture all of the action, which is what would be used in pro fights.

Apparently, this must terrify you because all your favorite boxers would end up with losses if that were to happen.

Anyway, please reply again and let me and everyone know how much this irritates you. I want to keep hearing it. It brings a smile to my face.

It has not been WIDELY implemented in an OFFICIAL manner yet.

No network has used it & no OFFICIAL entity has adopted it for OFFICIAL use, yet.

Let that happen FIRST.

Again, you're the one who keeps making threads and fxcking up the board with this one fight as if controversial decisions don't happen every fxckin' week in boxing.

So you think Loma/Haney was a robbery?

Get in line, I've thought hundreds of fights were robberies over the years.

I don't make 100 threads about them.

Get a fxckin' life.

[Cypocryphy]

Heard he got robbed against Lopez even though he literally ran half the fight and waited for Teo to punch himself out chasing him.

Yeah. I think the problem with this fight is that the judge's scorecards were so far off what occurred in the ring. One judge said Loma only won one round, which is absurd. There were other issues too, such as round two, where Lopez landed a couple crazing body shots, while Loma landed five head snapping punches, yet all the judges gave that to Lopez. It's the round that Ward gave to Loma, and I can't imagine anyone awarding Lopez that round. Also, looking at the fight as a whole, Loma beat up Lopez, while the opposite can't be said. It creates a certain perception.

It was a close fight. It reminded me of Shakur vs De Los Santos, in all honesty. Like how De Los Santos was pressing the fight but not landing much, you had Lopez pressing the fight and not landing much. The difference, however, was that Lopez won those rounds while De Los Santos lost those rounds. This is why people are not happy about how these judges score fights.

I haven't done an actual punch count for this fight because it takes too long, but I'm hoping Jabbr picks this fight up to demonstrate DeepStrike. I'd like to see more controversial classics as well, such as Whitaker vs Chavez.

[Cypocryphy]

It has not been WIDELY implemented in an OFFICIAL manner yet.

No network has used it & no OFFICIAL entity has adopted it for OFFICIAL use, yet.

Let that happen FIRST.

Again, you're the one who keeps making threads and fxcking up the board with this one fight as if controversial decisions don't happen every fxckin' week in boxing.

So you think Loma/Haney was a robbery?

Get in line, I've thought hundreds of fights were robberies over the years.

I don't make 100 threads about them.

Get a fxckin' life.

crimsonfalcon07 You see? This is one of those clowns I was telling you about, who's so triggered that he actually has to go to other threads that have nothing to do with Devin and Loma and start bitching and moaning about this fight.

Every time someone mentions Devin's name, you can hear this clown's ass pucker from across the Internet. I rarely see a man as triggered as this clown.

I've made one thread about this fight (this one) since the fight occurred to demonstrate this technology and how it could help in scoring fights, but in his little pea brain, he thinks this one thread has multiplied into hundreds. That's how bothered this man is. Like I said, his ass puckers every time you mention Devin's name. Don't be fooled by all his gifs. This man has untoward thoughts about other men.

And like I said clown: Keep posting replies on here. I know how much it hurts, so keep making me smile.

[W1LL]

I don't know, let's see. I'll post it again.

It would be cool if they allowed suggestions for future videos and demonstrations. Can think of many older fights, it would be great to see the real numbers like this. Lost count of the amount of times when I've seen a totally different fight than what the commentators are describing. Just off the top of my head... Castillo-Mayweather I, Dirrell-Froch, Holyfield-Lewis I & II, Calzaghe-Reid, several Pernell Whittaker fights. There was Catterall-Taylor recently, which was a sickening example of the corruption in Boxing.

I'll defo have a look at the Canelo-Golovkin ones. I didn't think there was any great controversy in those fights, though it is one of those things where we have the grey area of subjectivity. One fan likes the slick defensive moves and the art of 'hit and not get hit'. Another likes the aggression and forward-pressure of the other fighter. So one gives 4 close rounds to the style he likes, and the other scores the 4 rounds to what he likes. Who is wrong in these situations? It's a hard one, but seeing things in the way Jabbr do it starts to paint a broader picture. Hell yea!

[Cypocryphy]

It would be cool if they allowed suggestions for future videos and demonstrations. Can think of many older fights, it would be great to see the real numbers like this. Lost count of the amount of times when I've seen a totally different fight than what the commentators are describing. Just off the top of my head... Castillo-Mayweather I, Dirrell-Froch, Holyfield-Lewis I & II, Calzaghe-Reid, several Pernell Whittaker fights. There was Catterall-Taylor recently, which was a sickening example of the corruption in Boxing.

Yeah. Apparently they have a list at the moment. I ready that they are stepping away from posting more fight videos for a little bit because some were blocked for copyright violations and that they have some deadline they are working on. It was something like that. That was about a month or so ago. However, they did say they will be back shortly to post more. You could leave a request on their YouTube page.

I'll defo have a look at the Canelo-Golovkin ones. I didn't think there was any great controversy in those fights, though it is one of those things where we have the grey area of subjectivity.

Personally I didn't see much grey area in those fights. They didn't do the first, just the second one, and it was even more apparent that Golovkin should have had his hand raised. I think sometimes when we rewatch fights, especially when we rewatch fights knowing how the judges scored it in favor of someone we didn't initially see win, it will make a person overvalue what was being done by the person who eventually had his hand raised. Usually, our first judgment of a fight is the most accurate one based on how the AI is scoring the fights. That's how it's been for me.

One fan likes the slick defensive moves and the art of 'hit and not get hit'. Another likes the aggression and forward-pressure of the other fighter. So one gives 4 close rounds to the style he likes, and the other scores the 4 rounds to what he likes. Who is wrong in these situations? It's a hard one, but seeing things in the way Jabbr do it starts to paint a broader picture. Hell yea!

I suppose it depends on how much weight you apply to the four criteria. In Europe, they actually apportion a percentage to the four criteria, where clean punches is given the most weight, and defense is given the least weight. There are percentages next to each criterium.

The latter three criteria are dependent on the first one, which is "clean punches." So whatever someone likes, whether it be a smooth, fleet-footed out-boxing style or an aggressive volume punching style, it's about who lands the more effective punches. The sport is called "boxing" after all. I see people try to give rounds to a guy who has great upper body movement despite still getting him more off than the other guy. I think that's just someone way to disguise an effort to rob another fighter.

[Eff Pandas]

Yeah. Here's DeepStrikes Scorecard:

DEEPSTRIKE

	DEVIN HANEY	VASYL LOMACHENKO
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	9	10
4	9	10
5	9	10
6	9	10
7	9	10
8	9	10
9	9	10
10	9	10
11	9	10
12	10	9
TOTAL:	110	118

Do they do cards now? 118-110 Loma is an insane card.

Last I watched they just told who landed more shots, bigger shots & some other less obvious stats that can be interpreted many ways. And as we all know & agree with largely landing more shots doesn't equal you win the round unless you time machined back to early 90's amateur boxing.

[Eff Pandas]

So here we go. This is 99.99 percent accurate. Round by round. You tell me what the scorecard is then.

Round One

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	5	4
High Impact	1	0
Thrown	36	30
Pressure	34%	25%
Aggression	16%	15%

Round Two

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	11	14
High Impact	1	3
Thrown	43	63
Pressure	42%	25%
Aggression	21%	30%

Round Three

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	12	16
High Impact	2	4
Thrown	39	53
Pressure	34%	21%
Aggression	18%	28%

Round Four

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	6	10
High Impact	1	3
Thrown	43	24
Pressure	32%	24%
Aggression	23%	10%

Round Five

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	11	13
High Impact	1	2
Thrown	53	39
Pressure	35%	30%
Aggression	27%	20%

Round Six

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	10	13
High Impact	3	3
Thrown	36	37
Pressure	37%	19%
Aggression	17%	19%

Round Seven

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	11	19
High Impact	1	1
Thrown	40	39
Pressure	36	29
Aggression	22	18

Round Eight

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	14	15
High Impact	3	6
Thrown	42	39
Pressure	31	27
Aggression	21	20

Round Nine

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	9	16
High Impact	2	6
Thrown	40	43
Pressure	32	21
Aggression	20	20

Round Ten

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	5	13
High Impact	2	4
Thrown	31	37
Pressure	28	25
Aggression	13	12

Round Eleven

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	5	21
High Impact	2	11
Thrown	33	44
Pressure	34	36
Aggression	17	21

Round Twelve

	Devin Haney	Lomachenko
Landed	14	7
High Impact	2	2
Thrown	47	48
Pressure	37	38
Aggression	26	25

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So you believe landing more shots equals a round being won???

I don't even think the JabbrAI ppl believe that. Most boxing fans definitely don't believe that.

I love this AI punch stat world thats coming, but I think you are going further with their stats than they are.

[Eff Pandas]

I scored it a draw live so I really have no issue with anyone feeling either guy won.

This is weird though. I can't imagine living this way.

Same. To me it was a close enough either guy winning would have been fine or a draw obv.

I do love these AI stats tho & I hope they put compubox out of business soon with their nintendo controller bs. That said I do think ppl make too much of stats like this when they want to & don't realize this is like rushing yards or fumbles in a football game more than its what should be on the scoreboard.